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The rise and fall of Paula Deen


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#181 lochaven

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:06 PM


"I is what I is and I'm not changin."

 

 

Wow.


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#182 Ashen

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:28 AM

this article has an interesting tack on the whole situation. 

 

http://www.usatoday....a-deen/2458541/


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#183 Lisa Shock

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:54 AM

4.  Who prepped Deen for her deposition.  Putting on my lawyer's hat, I have to question her prepping for that deposition.  Those were entirely predictable lines of questioning and their were any number of ways to honestly answer the questions in a manner less detrimental to her image.  When representing a public figure, especially a public figure whose business is based largely on their image, you need to spend some time thinking through how to answer predictable questions.  There's a world of difference between saying "Of course" I've used a racial slur, versus saying, "yes, unfortunately I used a racial slur 30 years ago after I was held up at gun point"

 

 

A NYT article from a few days ago, sorry I can't figure out which one now, stated that she flat out did not prep for the deposition because she assumed the case was going to be dismissed. This seems a tad arrogant to me, either that, or her lawyers aren't very good.



#184 Bill Klapp

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 02:58 AM

and from the WSJ today  ( you may or not need to be a subscriber hard for me to say as I am one )

 

http://online.wsj.co...=trending_now_5

 

I think this is more likely, rotuts. Paula Deen has outlived her useful life on Food Networkand they have used the deposition to not renew her contract.  Her husband is wealthy in his own right.  They won't go barefoot.

Herein lies the truth.  This has nothing to do with racism, let alone outdated remarks, not even certain to evidence racist intent even if politically incorrect, much milder than those any number of U.S. politicians and international celebrities have uttered.  (Anybody remember Jesse Jackson calling New York City "Hymietown"?  Or how many blantantly racist strikes the Nixon-Ford Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz got before being canned?)  This is about cynical, amoral, what-have-you-done-for-me-lately capitalism.  If we could look behind the curtain, we would no doubt find that the PD brand does not sell like it used to.  She has type II diabetes from eating the garbage that she pimps.  Her constituency is Walmart  shoppers in the rural South.  Her aw-shucks act has no doubt worn off with the rest of the country, and she never had rational, healthy eaters among her audience.  Food Network dumped her in favor of its next new thing (and let's hope that it is not named Batali or Fieri!).  Walmart and other sponsors are dumping her.  Walmart is guilty of sexism, racism and God knows what other high crimes and misdemeanors, on an international level.  It has no room to cast stones at anyone, except maybe Enron.  And yet, corporate America, who should have done its due diligence on Ms. Deen's non-PC past before hiring her, is now seizing on the opportunity to ditch a used-up commodity with no economic upside for them.  And here we thought that only NFL owners did that kind of thing!  Who knows, could be a mistake.  Look at convicted felon and jailbird Martha Stewart!


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#185 lancastermike

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:50 AM

The panel has been assembled in Salem. Mary Walcott will testify. The EG jury of perfection is ready. Only question that remains is the gallows or burning at the stake. Maybe both.
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#186 gfweb

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 04:40 AM

4.  Who prepped Deen for her deposition.  Putting on my lawyer's hat, I have to question her prepping for that deposition.  Those were entirely predictable lines of questioning and their were any number of ways to honestly answer the questions in a manner less detrimental to her image.  When representing a public figure, especially a public figure whose business is based largely on their image, you need to spend some time thinking through how to answer predictable questions.  There's a world of difference between saying "Of course" I've used a racial slur, versus saying, "yes, unfortunately I used a racial slur 30 years ago after I was held up at gun point"

 

 

A NYT article from a few days ago, sorry I can't figure out which one now, stated that she flat out did not prep for the deposition because she assumed the case was going to be dismissed. This seems a tad arrogant to me, either that, or her lawyers aren't very good.

We already know she's an idiot.


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#187 SylviaLovegren

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 05:21 AM

Paula Deen is just the vehicle here.  The intent is to marshal all of our thoughts into the "correct" way of thinking.
 
That is why there is the attention given what should be a private matter between PD and her bosses and lawyers.

What you refer to as "political correctness" I would call common courtesy and respect.
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#188 rotuts

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 05:47 AM

JJ says PD can be redeemed !

 

http://www.mercuryne...can-be-redeemed

 

not to stir the pot (flames?), but is this the Pot calling the Kettle Black?  :blink:  or how ever it goes   :huh:

 

and that Paragon of Virtue, Righteousness and the American Way (NYT) adds this:

 

http://www.nytimes.c...l?ref=arts&_r=0


Edited by rotuts, 27 June 2013 - 05:51 AM.


#189 weinoo

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 06:35 AM

You do know that the NY Times' article you link to was written by their TV reviewer, right?


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#190 lindag

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:29 AM

She needs to take her $50+/- Million and enjoy life, buy an island somewhere and start her own TV network for the intellectually inept.

 

Bravo!



#191 rotuts

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:34 AM

TV reviewer    

 

of course!  TV is the American Way, no?   :huh:



#192 GordonCooks

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:42 AM

No one is perfect, the world isn't and Paula Deen certainly isn't.

 

As an ethnic person, I've been on the receiving end of racist comments, hence I don't use them.

 

But, I've said my share of stupid things in life and when I've recounted them, I've done so apologetically and with humilty. Not with justification and smugness (without a legal team I may add)

 

Given those around her know this is the person she truly is, then good.

 

Come uppence justified as for someone who "Is who she Is"

 

 

...I mean really, if she hadn't lost any sponsors we wouldn't even be hearing from her.


Edited by GordonCooks, 27 June 2013 - 07:48 AM.


#193 annabelle

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:00 AM

Paula Deen is just the vehicle here.  The intent is to marshal all of our thoughts into the "correct" way of thinking.
 
That is why there is the attention given what should be a private matter between PD and her bosses and lawyers.

What you refer to as "political correctness" I would call common courtesy and respect.

 

 

No, Sylvia.  A lot of it is bullying.  I'm not talking about Paula Deen, here. 

 

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:36 AM

 Her constituency is Walmart  shoppers in the rural South.

Oh, so only CERTAIN stereotyping is abhorrent.  Can you please skip the rural-south-Walmart-shopper bashing?  The largest US retailer sells organics, lactose free milk, and the same bougie Greek yogurt as Whole Foods or Fresh Market.  Some shoppers would rather keep the sales tax revenue at home,  in our obviously pathetic-to-you, "rural" communities.  Overgeneralization is at the heart of prejudice on all fronts.  We dismiss, or worse, actively dislike, the very things we find unfamiliar.  It's basic human nature, and it requires self awareness to overcome.


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#195 rotuts

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:40 AM

Just In !  From Fox !  PD # 1 !

 

http://www.foxnews.c...ber-one-amazon/

 

a true democracy votes with its bucks.  one dollar = one vote.


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#196 annabelle

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 10:01 AM

Celeste, mais yeah.  It doesn't matter that "Master Chef" is featuring Wal-Mart produce and meats in its current season.  Clearly, Gordon Ramsey and company are rural Southern hicktards and not worthy of our attentions.



#197 rotuts

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 10:26 AM

our attentions.

 
no no no
 
Wal-Marts take on their bottom line   nothing more


#198 annabelle

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:12 AM

Wal-Mart being featured on Master Chef is no different than Whole Food$ being featured on Top Chef.   Sponsorship is sponsorship.



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:28 AM

The Chew

 

http://beta.abc.go.c...od-News-6262013

 

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#200 rotuts

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:48 AM

One thing about PD the person and PD the Persona  you could not manufacture a " ........... " that would be easier to ridicule.

 

and we all know  to ridicule a persona is one thing, but to ridicule a person is quite another thing.

 

I mean, from first had experience I could tell you some true stories about MS, felon, that would curl your toes.


Edited by rotuts, 27 June 2013 - 11:49 AM.


#201 sigma

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:06 PM

I wonder how long until Michael Symon has to "clarify" his position.


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#202 rotuts

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:33 PM

my 'MS Felon' is not BTW is not this guy:

 

Michael Symon  

 

i had to look him up.  but then knew a little bit about him but not by name,

 

Im So Smug.  

 

sooo why does he miss a spot shaving?  and whats to "clarify" ?



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:45 PM

We're closing this topic. If new, substantive, information comes to light, members are free to start a new topic based on that. 

 

Thanks.


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