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#61 Twyst

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 06:25 AM

 
:laugh:
 
Surprisingly, I had heard of Uchi/ko before Paul Qui appeared on Top Chef and I've never even been to Austin. It was on my list of places to eat (if I ever made it to Austin). In fact, Paul Qui and Uchi/ko were the only reasons I watched that season of the show (haven't watched any since, nor had I watched any more than one or two of the earlier seasons).
 
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Paul left uchiko shortly after top chef, but it definitely helped its national visibility when he won. Tyson cole (exec. Chef) won the best chef sw. James beard award right before top chef aired, then Paul won it as chef de cuisine the following year, which is pretty crazy!

Austin is really lucky to have these restaurants, they would hold their own in any city in the world and they are a great training ground for up and coming cooks. There is really a heavy emphasis on teaching in those kitchens once you prove yourself, and cooks who have gone through their kitchens are starting to do great things.

Paul has his east side king trailers open right now, and qui should be opening soon.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 08:45 AM

 

 even Austin is more well-known because of barbecue and food trucks\

We also have Uchi/ko which is getting a ton of national attention now :P

 

:laugh:

 

Surprisingly, I had heard of Uchi/ko before Paul Qui appeared on Top Chef and I've never even been to Austin. It was on my list of places to eat (if I ever made it to Austin). In fact, Paul Qui and Uchi/ko were the only reasons I watched that season of the show (haven't watched any since, nor had I watched any more than one or two of the earlier seasons).

 

Which makes me wonder if the general audience of Top Chef gets their food/travel/culture/dining information primarily from Food Network and its ilk.

 

I've been thinking about conversations between my co-workers who profess to be "foodies" and who watch Top Chef. They day after a Top Chef episode, their conversations usually go like this:

 

1: I can't believe x got kicked off.

 

2: I know. But if you think about it, x didn't follow the spirit of the challenge, and y did, so of course x would get kicked off.

 

1: Yeah, but y is such a jerk. Y won't last much longer, anyway.

 

No mention of cooking at all--not off the techniques, not of the likely taste of the food, nothing.

 

Again, these are people who provide my frame of reference. ymmv.

 

Quite true - but your colleagues are not the only ones who watch TC.  There have been many discussions about the cooking aspects, or lack thereof, or what one could learn from the show, amongst folks I know or on forums - such as this one or others.  

 

I pointed out earlier that TC has been acknowledged to now be a "Game Show" by the chief judge (Tom Colicchio) - which ought to answer part of your question.  It has been discussed (at least elsewhere) how TC used to focus more on the cooking and less on the drama and how it has slipped more into the reality show realm, overall, with the progressive seasons - even though it has had many "drama" moments right from the beginning (the attempted Marcel's head-shaving included, in Season 2)  It has even been stated by the producers how they wished to "get back to the cooking", even if their success is debatable.  I for one will continue to treat it as a "Game Show" in the main, unless they prove otherwise in the new NOLA season.  

 

As to whether the general audience who watches TC gets all their food info from the show or from the Food Network (which is NOT Bravo, BTW :-) ) - I would question the thought that they may...I would be inclined to think that they get info from other sources - even if it might be Yelp, heh!!!  (This also feeds into the arm-waving we all had about what sort of folks "foodies" were on another contentious thread here on eG)



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:15 AM

Some further tid-bits about the Bourdain-Cohen flap and others drawn into it:

 

http://eater.com/arc...ensive.php#more

http://eater.com/arc...estooranges.php

http://www.blackened...-shut-f-up.html

 

@IndyRob: regarding your "thanks" to Simon about putting out "Treme" (http://forums.egulle...s/#entry1918887) - you might have a particular interest in what he had to say about this BP funds hoo-ha. :-) 

 



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:13 AM

Mr. Simon has the vocabulary of a middle-schooler.   I quit reading after "F*** Twitter."



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:31 AM

Oh, come on.  Don't tell me you haven't at least muttered "F**k" under your breath at least on one occasion. :-) 

 

As for the rest of Mr. Simon's response, I encourage you to get beyond that "F*** Twitter" and read the rest of it.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:47 AM

I swear like a sailor, but I am not a public figure and I know when to clam it up.  The point being, the article is entitled (I paraphrase) " Blah Blah Bravo Bullshit" and then lauds Boudain as an expert on NO (news to me) and introduces David Simon with "F**k Twitter".  Sorry Dave, saying "F**k" isn't quite the attention grabber it used to be, if indeed it ever was.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:38 AM

Some further tid-bits about the Bourdain-Cohen flap and others drawn into it:

 

http://eater.com/arc...ensive.php#more

http://eater.com/arc...estooranges.php

http://www.blackened...-shut-f-up.html

 

@IndyRob: regarding your "thanks" to Simon about putting out "Treme" (http://forums.egulle...s/#entry1918887) - you might have a particular interest in what he had to say about this BP funds hoo-ha. :-) 

What a fountain of self-righteous bullshit Bourdain has turned-on. Everyone looks bad and he looks the worst. As soon as someone starts telling somebody else how they should spend their money, you know that they are full of crap. 


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#68 annabelle

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:10 PM

Yup.  Bourdain has plenty of money.  He can spend it reimbursing the Tourism Bureau and wallowing in his good deeds.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:27 PM

Profanity aside (and it doesn't bother me) Simon's blog is a good read, if typically over-congratulatory as per Simon.  As I posted earlier, I have no problem with TC taking the $200,000 as an incentive to film in NO, but Cohen's comparison to the tax incentives received by Treme was idiotic.

 

TC and Cohen need not apologize for taking the money to film a season in NOLA period.  I know New Orleans is special and unique, but count me as another southerner who's fed up with the whole NOLA is the center of the cultural universe attitude.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 01:37 PM

Be careful there, Brown Hornet.  You'll have the native NOLA folks on you like a duck on a junebug.  :laugh:

 

 

Someone give me the executive summary of what exactly Treme is, please.  That name is a little twee.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 01:43 PM

It's David Simon's not very good follow up to The Wire.  Not related, just chronologically a follow up in his career.  It screams out "trying to be cool by doing wild things like playing in a cover band and swearing in public," so Bourdain is a natural fit.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 01:56 PM

Be careful there, Brown Hornet.  You'll have the native NOLA folks on you like a duck on a junebug.  :laugh:

 

 

Someone give me the executive summary of what exactly Treme is, please.  That name is a little twee.

Properly, it's the Faubourg Treme, arguably the oldest distinctly black neighborhood in America.  Second-oldest part of NOLA after the Vieux Carre (French Quarter).  Historically home to "free people of color", or the non-enslaved people of African descent living during the period of slavery, many of whom were of multi-hued heritage.  Birthplace of jazz, of urban Creole culture, early civil rights hotspot.....ever heard of Plessy v. Ferguson?  Homer Plessy, shoemaker by trade, was a Creole (technically 7/8 white, 1/8 black) who lived in Treme; his calculated decision, as a member of the Citizens Committee and a white-appearing male who was nonetheless deemed black by the state, to sit down on a whites-only train car in 1892 resulted in the US Supreme Court formulating the doctrine of "separate but equal", allowing instutitional segregation to flourish until the 50s.

 

Watch the documentary Faubourg Treme if you want a longer and more nuanced history:  http://www.tremedoc.com/  



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 02:25 PM

Thanks, Celeste. 

 

And here we are, 120 years later and Soledad O'Brien who is as Creole as Mr. Plessy, calls herself black.  Life is strange.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 03:02 PM

@IndyRob: regarding your "thanks" to Simon about putting out "Treme" (http://forums.egulle...s/#entry1918887) - you might have a particular interest in what he had to say about this BP funds hoo-ha. :-) 

I think that's what I was responding to.  I referenced his generosity, but pointed out that Treme is not exactly a tourism advertisement.

 

To expand on what Treme is, a good description of the area of NOLA of that name has been given.  But the HBO series Treme follows characters from that area in post-Katrina times.  It's mainly about the despair of the people, and the struggles of trying to save the deep culture from a devolving general culture, focusing on music, food,politics and popular culture.  It is extremely raw...alternately uplifting and gutting

 

Anyway, after all of this, I think I'm going very disappointed if this whole thing doesn't end with someone throwing a Sazarac at someone. :rolleyes:

 

ETA: Oh, and BTW,  if you read the Sazerac link I posted above, You might find an indication as to why Eater seems to be cheering for Simon and Bourdain in this fight.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 04:28 PM

I miss a lot by not subscribing to HBO. 

 

What does Treme mean?  My French is not that great and I don't recognize it.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:09 PM

I miss a lot by not subscribing to HBO. 

 

What does Treme mean?  My French is not that great and I don't recognize it.

 

Apparently (from Wikipedia) it's a surname...

 

Claude Tremé purchased the land from the original plantation owner.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:17 PM

It's a name, so it doesn't translate. From Claude Treme, who bought the Morand plantation lands now lying beneath the Sixth Ward )yet another name for the neighborhood). And Soledad Obrien is not capital C Creole in the New Orleans sense....Creoles of color in Louisiana are a category unto themselves, not simply anyone of multicultural/multiethnic ancestry.

Then there are white Creoles, another group of folks....or the Cane River Creoles, who live in the north central part of the state....or the Afrocentric French speaking southwest LA people who use the label Creole to distinguish themselves from their (culturally very very similar) Cajun neighbors.

Yet poor ol Alan Richman couldn't find any of these people in post Katrina Louisiana, bless his heart.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:47 PM

It sounds like trying to differentiate between the different Indian tribes where I live.  I'm about 1/32 Cherokee and have blue eyes and blonde hair, yet I'm forever having people ask me what Tribe I belong to.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:08 PM



Yet poor ol Alan Richman couldn't find any of these people in post Katrina Louisiana, bless his heart.

Alan is completely FOS. He couldn't find because he didn't look.



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Posted 23 May 2013 - 07:58 AM

He should have looked in the Superdome where Shep Smith managed to find cannibals when no one else could because there weren't any.  That's quality reporting, right there. /sarc



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Posted 23 May 2013 - 04:03 PM

Looks like the filming should start soon.

http://eater.com/arc...malakshmi-1.php



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 05:14 AM

Latest update: http://eater.com/arc...whole-foods.php

 

Interview w/ Colicchio: http://www.nola.com/..._lakshmi_a.html

 



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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:58 AM

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:28 AM

I see Padma has the Angelina Jolie leg-thing going.

 

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:36 PM

Padma's way hotter than AJ.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:40 PM

Padma's way hotter than AJ.

 

And she can cook.  I'll probably regret admitting this, but I actually do have, use, and like her cookbook.

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1602860068


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 03:01 PM

Padma's way hotter than AJ.

I'm definitely in the minority, but I find Gail hotter than Padma.  She did a demo on the same stage we were on for the Food & Wine festival in Austin last year and it took all of my focus to get any work done :p



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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:50 PM

Gail is classy and very pretty. 



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Posted 05 June 2013 - 05:36 PM

Padma's way hotter than AJ.
I'm definitely in the minority, but I find Gail hotter than Padma.  She did a demo on the same stage we were on for the Food & Wine festival in Austin last year and it took all of my focus to get any work done :p


I'm with you. Gail>>Padma

She does dress funny sometimes though.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:11 AM

Padma bites the hand that feeds her:

"Padma Lakshmi slams 'Top Chef' product placements"

Last year, she told Playboy that she doesn't watch "Top Chef," a show she famously hosts, and doesn't understand fans' rabid devotion. Now, she's railing against the show's product placement.

 

Poor Padma...the burdens you must shoulder...



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