Jump to content


Welcome to the eGullet Forums!

These forums are a service of the Society for Culinary Arts & Letters, a 501c3 nonprofit organization dedicated to advancement of the culinary arts. Anyone can read the forums, however if you would like to participate in active discussions please join the Society.

Photo

The Unacceptable Price Thread


  • Please log in to reply
28 replies to this topic

#1 rane008

rane008
  • participating member
  • 16 posts

Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:09 PM

Are you sick of the markups that some stores are putting on trendy items? Have you found yourself muttering, "How much?!!"

This is the tread to call out those outrageous prices:

I'll start.

A certain local market here in Lafayette, CA is charging $6/lb for heirloom tomatoes AT THE HEIGHT OF THE SEASON. Don't get me started on what they want for scallops.


Mods: If this is in the wrong forum, let me know and I'll move/remove it.

#2 dcarch

dcarch
  • participating member
  • 1,246 posts

Posted 16 July 2012 - 01:04 PM

With Tax, that's almost $80.00 a lb. (NYC)

dcarch

Posted Image

#3 SobaAddict70

SobaAddict70
  • eGullet Society staff emeritus
  • 6,904 posts

Posted 16 July 2012 - 01:06 PM

Are you sick of the markups that some stores are putting on trendy items? Have you found yourself muttering, "How much?!!"

This is the tread to call out those outrageous prices:

I'll start.

A certain local market here in Lafayette, CA is charging $6/lb for heirloom tomatoes AT THE HEIGHT OF THE SEASON. Don't get me started on what they want for scallops.


Mods: If this is in the wrong forum, let me know and I'll move/remove it.



$5 to $6/pint is about what gets charged at USGM here in NYC, however, that's a lot of heirloom tomatoes for one person.

I don't think those are outrageous prices. Farmers have to make a living somehow, especially since the cost of living in New York isn't exactly cheap.

#4 SobaAddict70

SobaAddict70
  • eGullet Society staff emeritus
  • 6,904 posts

Posted 16 July 2012 - 01:13 PM


Are you sick of the markups that some stores are putting on trendy items? Have you found yourself muttering, "How much?!!"

This is the tread to call out those outrageous prices:

I'll start.

A certain local market here in Lafayette, CA is charging $6/lb for heirloom tomatoes AT THE HEIGHT OF THE SEASON. Don't get me started on what they want for scallops.


Mods: If this is in the wrong forum, let me know and I'll move/remove it.



$5 to $6/pint is about what gets charged at USGM here in NYC, however, that's a lot of heirloom tomatoes for one person.

I don't think those are outrageous prices. Farmers have to make a living somehow, especially since the cost of living in New York isn't exactly cheap.


and I guarantee you that after Hurricane Irene a couple of years ago, most farms in the tri-state area weren't doing so hot. some had the majority of their cropland DESTROYED by the torrential rains and winds. those who escaped the storm's wrath still had a good percentage of their autumn harvest ruined, at precisely the worst possible moment. for many in this part of the world, the autumn harvest is THE principal money-making season, during which if everything comes out okay, most farms will end up in the black, with enough to tide them over until next year.

they can't charge too much or else they'll drive customers away. they can't charge too little or else they won't make a profit -- and that's after you factor in all the incidentals like: paying back any loans that were taken out from the bank (guess who props up farmers when we're not looking), paying their workers and hired help, overhead, the cost of transporting goods to the market, the cost of renting space at the market for the day and vehicle insurance.

the price dance is a delicate balance that farmers are all too aware of, so please keep that in mind the next time you're carping about so-called outrageous prices at your markets.

Edited by SobaAddict70, 16 July 2012 - 01:34 PM.


#5 patrickamory

patrickamory
  • participating member
  • 1,104 posts

Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:50 PM

dcarch, that looks like the produce place in Grand Central Market. Is it?

#6 mgaretz

mgaretz
  • participating member
  • 582 posts

Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:57 PM

Was in Williams-Sonoma today. Cherry pie filling for $19.95. Says it's enough for two 9" pies but I doubt it would do two, more like one.

#7 Shalmanese

Shalmanese
  • participating member
  • 3,251 posts

Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:51 PM

Some company sells fancy cocktail mixers for $7 a bottle. It's a little bit overpriced but whatever, except they sell simple syrup for the same price. Now that's outrageous!
PS: I am a guy.

#8 pastrygirl

pastrygirl
  • society donor
  • 914 posts

Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:24 PM

With Tax, that's almost $80.00 a lb. (NYC)

dcarch

Posted Image


For that price, they should at least spell chanterelle correctly :raz:

#9 Broken English

Broken English
  • participating member
  • 414 posts

Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:51 PM

Can I add immersion circulators to the list?
James.

#10 Panaderia Canadiense

Panaderia Canadiense
  • participating member
  • 1,641 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:26 AM

$3.95 for a box of Kraft Mac and Cheese with nothing at all special about it.
Elizabeth Campbell, baking 10,000 feet up at 1° South latitude.
My eG Food Blog (2011)My eG Foodblog (2012)

#11 dcarch

dcarch
  • participating member
  • 1,246 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:44 AM

dcarch, that looks like the produce place in Grand Central Market. Is it?


Yes.

I am surprised how many people actually shop there.

dcarch

#12 liuzhou

liuzhou
  • participating member
  • 1,124 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:16 AM

For that price, they should at least spell chanterelle correctly


And USA!
...your dancing child with his Chinese suit.

#13 liuzhou

liuzhou
  • participating member
  • 1,124 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:19 AM

My local Radisson hotel has a small shop selling what they imagine to be otherwise unavailable product here in this smallish Chinese city. Only problem is that everything is available elsewhere in the city at around half the price.

Except for the Maldon sea salt which the Radisson sells for ¥120, but I can buy nearby for ¥25.

http://liuzhou.co.uk...elusional-deli/

Edited by liuzhou, 17 July 2012 - 06:24 AM.

...your dancing child with his Chinese suit.

#14 budrichard

budrichard
  • participating member
  • 1,700 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:09 AM

It's known as a 'Free Market' in Econ 101
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Free_market
If you don't like the price, you don't purchase. If you don't purchase and the price is above the producers actual cost, then the theory is, if enough people don't purchase the seller will be forced to reduce the price.
Seems to work for the most part.-Dick

#15 Toliver

Toliver
  • participating member
  • 4,460 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 09:45 AM

I do a lot of my shopping at a discount grocers (a chain ironically owned by a big name more expensive grocery chain). In the cheaper grocery store, they will sell rotisserie chickens for $5.99. But if I go to the big name more expensive grocery chain, they sell the same chicken for 2 bucks more. WTF? :blink:
Or I can just go to Costco and get their freakishly large rotisserie chickens for the same price as the discount grocery chain (which offers a much smaller bird).
It's as if the stores don't realize that we comparison shop these days so they think they can charge whatever they want. Well, I ain't buyin' it in more ways than one. :wink:

“Peter: Oh my god, Brian, there's a message in my Alphabits. It says, 'Oooooo.'
Brian: Peter, those are Cheerios.”
– From Fox TV’s “Family Guy”


#16 pastrygirl

pastrygirl
  • society donor
  • 914 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 09:55 AM

It's as if the stores don't realize that we comparison shop these days so they think they can charge whatever they want. Well, I ain't buyin' it in more ways than one. :wink:


Yeah, but comparison shopping takes time. Reading the ads and making a list and going to three different stores on shopping day takes time and effort. I, for one, don't really want to spend that time. I go to the closest store and if it looks good and the price doesn't seem insane, I buy it. Sure, I do check prices and sometimes will opt for a certain cheese or fish or whatever based on price relative to each other at that store and i do look for the items on special, but I'm not going to make an extra trip to save a couple bucks on a chicken, I'd rather have the extra half hour.

Edited by pastrygirl, 17 July 2012 - 09:57 AM.


#17 mkayahara

mkayahara
  • participating member
  • 1,709 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:18 AM

Besides which, not everyone takes price as their only - or even primary - decision-making factor.
Matthew Kayahara
Kayahara.ca
@mtkayahara

#18 Darienne

Darienne
  • participating member
  • 4,333 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:26 AM

Yeah, but comparison shopping takes time. Reading the ads and making a list and going to three different stores on shopping day takes time and effort. I, for one, don't really want to spend that time. I go to the closest store and if it looks good and the price doesn't seem insane, I buy it. Sure, I do check prices and sometimes will opt for a certain cheese or fish or whatever based on price relative to each other at that store and i do look for the items on special, but I'm not going to make an extra trip to save a couple bucks on a chicken, I'd rather have the extra half hour.


The same goes for me. I feel if I am reasonably careful and frugal...which I am...it will all equal out in the end. OTOH, DH is a comparison shopper. Drives me crazy. I just leave him to it. He's happy. I'm happy. What more could a human ask for?
Darienne


learn, learn, learn...

Cheers & Chocolates

#19 rotuts

rotuts
  • participating member
  • 2,448 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

I do it this way: If its not on sale, then why pay the more expensive price? it true from time to time you need to pay full retail, but its not hard to look at the 'weekly ads' and see what's on sale and use that as the basis of what you will (mostly) cook.

It does not work well when making a specific recipe, that's OK but most of the time I use sales and go from there.

Not really fanatic about it. And the stores i use are the ones i always use.

Frugal is not the same as Cheap. I have Friends that might be Seasoned and Weighty that get this confused.

After all, in so many years, this allows you to get the "Japanese Knife" when you already have more knives that you need!

#20 rotuts

rotuts
  • participating member
  • 2,448 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:52 AM

Above, I should have added 'routine day to day stuff'

that does include Meat Veg Wine

#21 mgaretz

mgaretz
  • participating member
  • 582 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:18 PM

that does include Meat Veg Wine


I've seen wine made from all kinds of things, but meat and vegetables?

;-) (can't do a graphic smiley on my iPad!)

#22 CaliPoutine

CaliPoutine
  • participating member
  • 2,910 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:20 PM

Was in Williams-Sonoma today. Cherry pie filling for $19.95. Says it's enough for two 9" pies but I doubt it would do two, more like one.


All of that pre-made ingredients at Williams Sonoma is so expensive. But ya know what, people buy it. Today, I bought some Jam there, I paid 3.74( on clearance). regular price was 14.95. The only igredients are blueberries( not even the wild ones), cane sugar and lemon juice. Its good jam, but no way worth 15 bucks. I shake my head when I see Sloppy Joe starter or Chili Starter for 15.00 a jar. Their bundt cake mixes are 19.95( and you still need to add 3 sticks of butter and eggs). Ridiculous.

#23 CaliPoutine

CaliPoutine
  • participating member
  • 2,910 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:22 PM

I do a lot of my shopping at a discount grocers (a chain ironically owned by a big name more expensive grocery chain). In the cheaper grocery store, they will sell rotisserie chickens for $5.99. But if I go to the big name more expensive grocery chain, they sell the same chicken for 2 bucks more. WTF? :blink:
Or I can just go to Costco and get their freakishly large rotisserie chickens for the same price as the discount grocery chain (which offers a much smaller bird).
It's as if the stores don't realize that we comparison shop these days so they think they can charge whatever they want. Well, I ain't buyin' it in more ways than one. :wink:



Is it Food for Less vs. Ralphs? If so, you're paying for atmosphere too.

#24 mkayahara

mkayahara
  • participating member
  • 1,709 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:37 PM


Was in Williams-Sonoma today. Cherry pie filling for $19.95. Says it's enough for two 9" pies but I doubt it would do two, more like one.


All of that pre-made ingredients at Williams Sonoma is so expensive. But ya know what, people buy it. Today, I bought some Jam there, I paid 3.74( on clearance). regular price was 14.95. The only igredients are blueberries( not even the wild ones), cane sugar and lemon juice. Its good jam, but no way worth 15 bucks. I shake my head when I see Sloppy Joe starter or Chili Starter for 15.00 a jar. Their bundt cake mixes are 19.95( and you still need to add 3 sticks of butter and eggs). Ridiculous.

It is ridiculous. Fortunately, you often can get items on sale. On a whim, I bought some mulling spices there a few years ago (on sale), and even though it was nothing but a bunch of cinnamon, allspice, dried orange peel and cloves, they were very tasty mulling spices. Plus they came in a nice little tin that I've been able to reuse!
Matthew Kayahara
Kayahara.ca
@mtkayahara

#25 annabelle

annabelle
  • participating member
  • 1,041 posts

Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:56 PM

Williams-Sonoma has fantastic sales. I've bought gorgeous table linens for less than $10, generally after the holidays before they do inventory for taxes.

#26 Toliver

Toliver
  • participating member
  • 4,460 posts

Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:44 AM


I do a lot of my shopping at a discount grocers (a chain ironically owned by a big name more expensive grocery chain). In the cheaper grocery store, they will sell rotisserie chickens for $5.99. But if I go to the big name more expensive grocery chain, they sell the same chicken for 2 bucks more. WTF? :blink:
Or I can just go to Costco and get their freakishly large rotisserie chickens for the same price as the discount grocery chain (which offers a much smaller bird).
It's as if the stores don't realize that we comparison shop these days so they think they can charge whatever they want. Well, I ain't buyin' it in more ways than one. :wink:



Is it Food for Less vs. Ralphs? If so, you're paying for atmosphere too.

No. Though all of the major grocery chains seem to own discount grocery chains. The store I frequent is FoodMaxx, owned by the Save Mart grocery chain. Save Mart is a central California chain, so you may not have heard of them.
You're right about atmosphere. The atmosphere inside Food Maxx is depressingly "ghetto" (I actually overheard two Food Maxx customers talking about the store and one said "I admit I'm pretty ghetto, but this store makes me look like I'm Neiman-Marcus").
I will never forget my shock at seeing Ralph's delivery trucks in the Food for Less loading docks. It was eye opening, to say the least.

“Peter: Oh my god, Brian, there's a message in my Alphabits. It says, 'Oooooo.'
Brian: Peter, those are Cheerios.”
– From Fox TV’s “Family Guy”


#27 CaliPoutine

CaliPoutine
  • participating member
  • 2,910 posts

Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:30 AM

Bought this oil yesterday. Regular price 18.95, on clearance for 2.25. Its a mixture of sunflower oil and EVOO.

Attached Images

  • oil.jpg

Edited by CaliPoutine, 18 July 2012 - 10:36 AM.


#28 L.sutter

L.sutter
  • participating member
  • 2 posts

Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:04 AM

Rotuts: "I do it this way: If its not on sale, then why pay the more expensive price? it true from time to time you need to pay full retail, but its not hard to look at the 'weekly ads' and see what's on sale and use that as the basis of what you will (mostly) cook."

I've tried this several times, and every time I have to say it's a fail for me. I'm sure if you're older and/or just a more organized person that me, it might work out but I can't even plan my meal for tomorrow night let alone the whole week of meals. I'm always gogogogogoing no time to plan hardly time to shop.

Anyway, I've actually notices a decrease in the price of avocados in the past year. Is that because they're becoming less trendy or some other reason? They used to be as much as 2 for $6 in some places near me, but now I never see them more than 2 for $4 and usually 2 for $3.

Yesterday I saw organic valley organic butter (just a basic organic brand, not local or flavored, or from special cows or anything) that was almost $9 for four sticks.

#29 gfweb

gfweb
  • participating member
  • 2,439 posts

Posted 30 August 2012 - 07:10 AM

New Record for W-S pricing.... $700-$1000 for an ice ball press. Makes em one at a time.
http://us.mg6.mail.y...d=fqf5uf1s7qfk6