In my mind, a traditional diner-style hash would use potatoes as the starch and be very crispy on the outer layer, soft within. But I also think adapted to today's tastes and styles, you could easily replace the hash another starch, yet still keep the crispy texture to define it as hash.Hmm. That hash I made yesterday might have had some nominally crispy bits, but I wasn't really shooting for "crispy". Was I supposed to?
#91
Posted 17 February 2012 - 07:04 AM
#92
Posted 17 February 2012 - 11:00 AM
Objectively, I'd have to say the picture is not that appetizing (you should see the raw image), but the dish was actually quite tasty. We don't tend to have much in the way of leftovers, so this was a combination of a single portion of a supposedly Spanish-inspired beef stew from the January/February issue of Cook's Illustrated, combined with a half-portion of a home fry recipe from the same issue.
My idea was to do something along the lines of biksemad (which Mette mentioned, upthread), but I ran out of steam when the time came to turn the beef chunks into small dice, and I just broke/shredded them up, instead. The potatoes were crisp and caramelized on the outside, fluffy within, and the meat was moist and tender. Apparently, ketchup and HP Sauce are standard with biksemad, so my boyfriend set up small ponds of each at the edge of his plate. We had rucola with this, too.
But, does this count as hash, or did the inclusion of home fries kind of blow this out of the water?
#93
Posted 17 February 2012 - 11:53 AM
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#94
Posted 17 February 2012 - 02:35 PM
It was tasty, but it didn't stick together like I thought it would. Not enough starch from the potatoes?
#95
Posted 17 February 2012 - 02:53 PM
#96
Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:45 PM
I picked up a pound of pulled pork from one of the several local barbecue emporiums (emporia?), got home, and discovered I had but one lonely sweet potato. I also had some acorn squash, so the lighter-colored chunks in the hash are that. They tasted much like a potato. Diced and fried the sweet potato and squash until brown a bit on the outside and soft within, added the chopped-up pulled pork to heat and get some crispy bits, then drizzled with No. 5 sauce that came with the pork. You've got to love a 'cue joint that has five different sauces. This one is spicy with a touch of sweet.
It was excellent.
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#97
Posted 18 February 2012 - 04:42 PM

I made hash with some leftover spiced, coffee-crusted barbecue chuck. Added onions, birds eye chilli and potatoes.

Crisped up the top in the oven.
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#98
Posted 18 February 2012 - 06:16 PM
I'm thinking the reason it didn't cling together is that you used water for the liquid element rather than cream or a thick gravy that would have given your hash more body.I made hash last night too. Onion, red potatoes and corned beef. I par-bolied the potatoes and cut them into just slightly smaller pieces than MJX's. Seasoned with fresh garlic and a small amount of salt and pepper. I sautéed the onions in clarified butter added in the potatoes until they started to brown then the beef, spices and 1/2 cup of water. Cooked on fairly high heat until the water was gone and the hash was getting very crispy. Then turned for another few minutes.
It was tasty, but it didn't stick together like I thought it would. Not enough starch from the potatoes?
#99
Posted 18 February 2012 - 06:25 PM
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#100
Posted 18 February 2012 - 07:00 PM

The flavor is great, but the texture is off. It just isn’t ‘hashy’ enough. The pieces are too large and separate. To me, hash isn’t hash unless it clings together. Like Chris A, to my tastes it needs to be an amalgamation of meat and potatoes. If you can pull out each individual ingredient and lay them down in a line, it’s just chopped things that were cooked together. I really liked the looks of David’s hash in post #32. I think that I need to use his Better Homes and Gardens recipe. Unfortunately, I don’t have the 1976 edition - I’ve got a 1951 and a 1982 (the year we got married!). David, you gave great directions in that post, but could you give me a hint about proportions – meat to potato to evaporated milk?
And here’s a question that occurred to me: if you make fish hash and form it into patties and cook it crisp on either side, what’s the difference between that hash and fish cakes? Because I sometimes use mashed potatoes, but other times I use pretty chunky ‘smashed’ potatoes to make fish cakes.
#101
Posted 18 February 2012 - 07:54 PM
"Best Oven Hash"
1 cup coarsely ground corned beef
1 cup coarsely ground cooked potatoes
1/4 cup coarsely ground onion
1/4 cup snipped parsely
2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
1 6-oz can evaporated milk, (2/3 cup)
1/4 cup bread crumbs
1 tbsp butter, melted
Mix first 6 ingredients, 1 tsp. salt and dash pepper. Turn into 1-quart casserole. Mix crumbs and butter, sprinkle atop. Bake at 350 for 30 minutes, serves 4.
#102
Posted 18 February 2012 - 09:13 PM
Edited by robirdstx, 18 February 2012 - 09:16 PM.
#103
Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:26 AM
Here's the recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens cookbook, 1976 edition. (Note: the recipe calls for cooking in the oven, but as you know from my photo descriptions, I fried the hash in cakes in a pan on the stovetop).
"Best Oven Hash"
1 cup coarsely ground corned beef
1 cup coarsely ground cooked potatoes
1/4 cup coarsely ground onion
1/4 cup snipped parsely
2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
1 6-oz can evaporated milk, (2/3 cup)
1/4 cup bread crumbs
1 tbsp butter, melted
Mix first 6 ingredients, 1 tsp. salt and dash pepper. Turn into 1-quart casserole. Mix crumbs and butter, sprinkle atop. Bake at 350 for 30 minutes, serves 4.
Thanks so much for posting this, David! I'm printing this out and will place with the pastrami short ribs recipe so that I'll remember to do it next time!
#104
Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:42 AM

When the bottoms had browned, I removed the rings and flipped the patties:

In the meantime, I made a couple of poached eggs and then served them on top of the hash:

The second batch, I cooked free form style in a cast iron skillet:

I tossed the hash several times and continued to cook it until it was well browned:

The consensus: We prefer the free form style, as the hash was nice and crispy throughout.
#105
Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:52 AM
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#106
Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:17 PM
I'm thinking the reason it didn't cling together is that you used water for the liquid element rather than cream or a thick gravy that would have given your hash more body.
I made hash last night too. Onion, red potatoes and corned beef. I par-bolied the potatoes and cut them into just slightly smaller pieces than MJX's. Seasoned with fresh garlic and a small amount of salt and pepper. I sautéed the onions in clarified butter added in the potatoes until they started to brown then the beef, spices and 1/2 cup of water. Cooked on fairly high heat until the water was gone and the hash was getting very crispy. Then turned for another few minutes.
It was tasty, but it didn't stick together like I thought it would. Not enough starch from the potatoes?
Being lactose intolerant, cream is out. Anyway I took some photos of the leftovers:
And with a poached egg (dinner last night):
#107
Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:51 PM
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#108
Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:10 PM
#109
Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:50 AM
Procedure:
Dice some potatoes and add them in a single layer to an non-stick pan.
Add 4 tbsp of water, 2 tbsp of fat (I used duck fat) & a large pinch of salt.
Cover, turn heat to medium and let cook, shaking and stirring once every minute or so.
Total time is about 20 minutes from raw potato to hash:
The water will first steam the potatoes and then, after the water evaporates, the fat fries and crisps the outside. What you get is ultra creamy and tender centers and a pretty decent, crackly crunchy crust. I used russet potatoes this time but I feel it might actually work better with reds. I might also switch to giving them 10 minutes in the oven at the end to give it a dryer center and a slightly stronger crust but overall, it's a great way way to get hash on the table with a minimum of fuss.
Edited by Shalmanese, 27 February 2012 - 05:51 AM.
#110
Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:31 PM
#111
Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:38 PM
I fried some potatoes, added onions when the potatoes were almost done, then added a large heap of leftover bolognese sauce from last week's lasagne. So, the meat was ground rather than chopped. Does that disqualify it?
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#112
Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:45 PM
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Eat more chicken skin.
#113
Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:47 PM
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#114
Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:59 PM
Dave Scantland
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Eat more chicken skin.
#115
Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:48 PM
#116
Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:03 PM
In what way?It really makes a difference.
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#117
Posted 03 March 2012 - 03:37 PM
#118
Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:17 PM
Dave Scantland
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Eat more chicken skin.
#119
Posted 06 March 2012 - 05:51 PM

A bit of fried up onion, yukon gold potato, duck fat, sous vided (I think we should coin a new term for the past tense of sous vide - sous ved!) chuck eye. Things could have been a bit crispier, and the meat chunks a bit smaller, and I was unaware until just now that the egg should have been poached - but altogether a very satisfactory dinner.
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#120
Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:46 PM
For heavier meal, would add a poached egg, but this stood on its own nicely.
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