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Help for a Couple of Cocktail Novices (Part 1)


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#241 Anna N

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 02:55 PM

My favourite "doc" showed up today with a bottle of Gosling's rum and a bottle of Fernet Branca. I thought it appropriate to honour the gift with this:

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Doctor's Orders. Campari, gin, Fernet Branca, sweet and dry vermouth, orange bitters. Not yet a favourite as this is a taste that will take some getting used to. I will sip and peruse The Joy of Mixology which also arrived for my enjoyment (on loan!).
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 03:39 PM

Doctor's Orders. Campari, gin, Fernet Branca, sweet and dry vermouth, orange bitters. Not yet a favourite as this is a taste that will take some getting used to. I will sip and peruse The Joy of Mixology which also arrived for my enjoyment (on loan!).

That sounds really tasty. I fetched the recipe for a day when I'm not battling a pounding, can't sit up or stand for long without the head feeling like it's going to explode, nasty-stomach-causing, weather-related sinus headache that refuses to loosen up. Tylenol sinus is the only thing that breaks the bad ones for me. I'm out and everything is closed so we're spending the day together. :biggrin:
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#243 Kerry Beal

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 03:50 PM

That sounds really tasty. I fetched the recipe for a day when I'm not battling a pounding, can't sit up or stand for long without the head feeling like it's going to explode, nasty-stomach-causing, weather-related sinus headache that refuses to loosen up. Tylenol sinus is the only thing that breaks the bad ones for me. I'm out and everything is closed so we're spending the day together. :biggrin:

Face over a bowl of boiling water sucking steam through your nose.

Tonight the Hop Toad from the Joy of Mixology. Rum, apricot brandy, lime. Fine on it's own but a bit of an off taste with the dinner I made.


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#244 EvergreenDan

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 03:51 PM

Guess I'll be looking for the small Oxo measure.


I wasn't successful finding them in stores, so I bought them here:
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I found it much easier to use than regular jiggers, especially if you don't use speed pourers.
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#245 Kerry Beal

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 03:53 PM

Guess I'll be looking for the small Oxo measure.


I wasn't successful finding them in stores, so I bought them here:
OXO 2 oz measuring cup

I found it much easier to use than regular jiggers, especially if you don't use speed pourers.

Anna and I saw them (and decided not to get them originally) in Home Outfitters - kind of a Canadian Bed, Bath and Beyond.

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 04:12 PM

Tried the Bitter Elder tonight (also a cocktail novice). NICE! Sort of tastes like grapefruit!
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 04:39 PM

Face over a bowl of boiling water sucking steam through your nose.

Thanks Doc... water is heating now. Send me the bill. :biggrin:
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#248 Kerry Beal

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 05:24 PM

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Tonights libation - VPB daiquiri - rum, St Germain, lemon. Need to get some slightly smaller coupes. And an ice crusher.

#249 Anna N

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 02:11 PM

Friday at last! Tonight's cocktail:

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Gin, orgeat and lemon juice. Nice! Attractive too.
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#250 Kerry Beal

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 02:21 PM

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Tonight I went for a slightly bastardized 'Fat Like Buddha' - 5 year old Flor de Cana, vya in place of dubonnet rouge, benedictine and cointreau. Flamed orange rind. Quite enjoyable.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 03:19 PM

Tonights libation - VPB daiquiri - rum, St Germain, lemon. Need to get some slightly smaller coupes. And an ice crusher.


Might consider the Libbey "Embassy Collection" coupe #3773. Holds 5.5 oz but to me it seems smaller. They make even smaller ones as the #3777 is 4.5 oz and the #3787 is only 3.5 oz. Now that last one just has to be too small. Barely a sip!

Can by them at restaurant supply stores like this for about $100 but only if you want 36 of 'em! I even found a local restaurant supply store that had them but they wouldn't break the case.

I couldn't for the life of me figure out what I would do with 36 of them but found a place that will sell them by the glass so I bought 6. I think they had both the #3773 and the #3777 size. But a lot more expensive that way. Including shipping they cost me almost half what 36 would have cost here locally.

Starting to wonder if I should have bought the case of 36!

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#252 Kerry Beal

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 04:35 PM

Ah, but the fun is in finding a couple of glasses you like at a thrift store! Hate to pay more than a buck or so for a fabulous glass.

Anna and I were in Buffalo on Wednesday and I saw 8 of the glasses she shows above - but they wanted too much money for them! I'll wait - they'll show up.

#253 Anna N

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 04:39 PM

Ah, but the fun is in finding a couple of glasses you like at a thrift store! Hate to pay more than a buck or so for a fabulous glass.

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Ah yes. There are no bargains in alcohol when the gov't controls the sale so these two bargain hunters have to mesh our two interests somehow - making cocktails with gov't controlled alcohol and finding great bargains in glassware and barware. :laugh:
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:58 PM


Ah, but the fun is in finding a couple of glasses you like at a thrift store! Hate to pay more than a buck or so for a fabulous glass.

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Ah yes. There are no bargains in alcohol when the gov't controls the sale so these two bargain hunters have to mesh our two interests somehow - making cocktails with gov't controlled alcohol and finding great bargains in glassware and barware. :laugh:


Yes, well perhaps unsurprisingly bargain hunting isn't my thing! I like saving as much as the next person but my idea of a good day shopping is to git in, git 'er done, git out and have a new cocktail ready to go before the dust settles!
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#255 Kerry Beal

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 04:51 PM

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Tonight - the 'Flugelhorn' - Tanqueray 10, St Germain, lemon, grapefruit bitters and orange bitters. Recipe from Kindred Cocktail. Thank you Dan!

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 05:49 PM

Doctor's Orders. Campari, gin, Fernet Branca, sweet and dry vermouth, orange bitters. Not yet a favourite as this is a taste that will take some getting used to.


I tried this again myself. I think with a full oz of Fernet, it is a bit unbalanced. I liked it, but the Campari, gin, and vermouths were like poor old Mark Webber to Sebastian Vettel (for any Formula 1 fans out there). I think I'll try it with 1/2 oz next time.
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#257 Anna N

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:21 PM


Doctor's Orders. Campari, gin, Fernet Branca, sweet and dry vermouth, orange bitters. Not yet a favourite as this is a taste that will take some getting used to.


I tried this again myself. I think with a full oz of Fernet, it is a bit unbalanced. I liked it, but the Campari, gin, and vermouths were like poor old Mark Webber to Sebastian Vettel (for any Formula 1 fans out there). I think I'll try it with 1/2 oz next time.


When I revisit this drink I will try with les of the Fernet Branca and see if I like it any better.

Tonight I had my daughter and SIL over for dinner and they had requested the martini from Casino Royale - Gin, vodka and lillet so I obliged - can't say it did anything for me but SIL seemed to enjoy it.
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#258 KatieLoeb

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 09:07 PM

That would be a proper Vesper, for those that are keeping track...
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#259 EvergreenDan

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 06:39 AM

Anna - The Vesper may have been missing the bitter element that was in Kina Lillet at the time Ian Flemming qrote Casino Royale. Some feel that today Cocchi Americano is a better choice than actual Lillet for historic applications. OTOH, I've read Lillet folks claim that the formula hasn't changed....

Cocchi American is great stuff, if it's available in ON (or Buffalo, he, he). You might try to find it when your Lillet is gone.

And you're killing me with those trumpet-shaped cocktail glasses. I'd love to have some. Beautiful and good slosh-resistant ergonomics. I don't care for the shape of classic coupes and conical "Martini" glasses are a pain to serve and drink from.
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#260 Anna N

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 07:04 AM

Anna - The Vesper may have been missing the bitter element that was in Kina Lillet at the time Ian Flemming qrote Casino Royale. Some feel that today Cocchi Americano is a better choice than actual Lillet for historic applications. OTOH, I've read Lillet folks claim that the formula hasn't changed....

Cocchi American is great stuff, if it's available in ON (or Buffalo, he, he). You might try to find it when your Lillet is gone.

And you're killing me with those trumpet-shaped cocktail glasses. I'd love to have some. Beautiful and good slosh-resistant ergonomics. I don't care for the shape of classic coupes and conical "Martini" glasses are a pain to serve and drink from.


Thanks. Will have to keep any eye out for Cocchi American. I have only one of those glasses I am afraid. Kerry spotted it in a thrift shop and handed it to me. Now we are on the look out for more - especially for her. :smile:
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Posted 11 September 2011 - 07:24 AM

Thanks. Will have to keep any eye out for Cocchi American.

Unfortunately, at least for now, you'll have to do a run across the border to get it. The LCBO doesn't carry it. Manitoba is close enough to be an option of desperation for me but they don't have it either. I've been watching for it for quite a while with no hints at it making an appearance.
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#262 Kerry Beal

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 07:41 AM


Thanks. Will have to keep any eye out for Cocchi American.

Unfortunately, at least for now, you'll have to do a run across the border to get it. The LCBO doesn't carry it. Manitoba is close enough to be an option of desperation for me but they don't have it either. I've been watching for it for quite a while with no hints at it making an appearance.

I've got a chocolate student coming at the end of the month from Tucson - I've already got her looking for a bottle or two to bring across the border. I've asked her to look for the Smith and Cross rum and perhaps a bottle of curacao. So many bottles - so little availability!

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 12:17 PM

If the store your student is shopping carries the Smith & Cross it is likely they will have the Cocchi Americano as well or at least could order it, as they are both part of the same importer's portfolio, Haus Alpenz. If you can get it, you should try their Cocchi Barolo Chinato (scroll down HERE for a description) as it pairs wonderfully well with chocolate. Sounds right up your alley... :smile:
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#264 Kerry Beal

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 03:16 PM

If the store your student is shopping carries the Smith & Cross it is likely they will have the Cocchi Americano as well or at least could order it, as they are both part of the same importer's portfolio, Haus Alpenz. If you can get it, you should try their Cocchi Barolo Chinato (scroll down HERE for a description) as it pairs wonderfully well with chocolate. Sounds right up your alley... :smile:


It's apparently already ordered from a store in California.

I'm off to Italy in November - escort for a group going to take a week of coking classes - hoping they are all non drinkers so I can get each of them to 'sponsor' a bottle through customs. Should be able to get a number of those products there.

#265 Anna N

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 04:30 PM

Wasn't sure if a cocktail was in order tonight as my SIL had served me a Bloody Caesar and he doesn't put much store in the idea of measuring the vodka! But I decided to take one for the team:

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Gotham cocktail from The Joy of Mixology. Cognac, dry vermouth, creme de cassis, lemon juice and a lemon twist. I don't think my measurements were very accurate either. :laugh: Will have to try this one again when my eyes focus properly. So I will reserve judgement until I get it right.
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#266 Kerry Beal

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 04:32 PM

Tonights offering - Paul's Swizzle from the Kindred Cocktail site. Rum, aperol, cynar, lemon, ginger beer and angostura. Very nice.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 06:49 AM

And you're killing me with those trumpet-shaped cocktail glasses. I'd love to have some. Beautiful and good slosh-resistant ergonomics. I don't care for the shape of classic coupes and conical "Martini" glasses are a pain to serve and drink from.


Not exactly, but something similar I got some years ago (and love):

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#268 Anna N

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 07:57 AM


And you're killing me with those trumpet-shaped cocktail glasses. I'd love to have some. Beautiful and good slosh-resistant ergonomics. I don't care for the shape of classic coupes and conical "Martini" glasses are a pain to serve and drink from.


Not exactly, but something similar I got some years ago (and love):

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Christopher


I have something very similar that I bought because certain members of my family are challenged by anything with a long stem and I hate picking up broken glass. :laugh:
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#269 Kerry Beal

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:59 PM

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The Caricature - a variation of DeGroef's 'Old Flame' by Gary Regan.

I notice other variations on this drink include some simple - and I suspect a little additional sweetness would be beneficial.

#270 Kerry Beal

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 04:19 PM

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Not a great cocktail night - two got binned before we settled on a third that we enjoyed. This first is the CEO - Dr Cocktail via Regan from the Joy of Mixology. Brandy, Creme de cassis, lillet blond (oops forgot the orange bitters), lemon twist. Not sure why it didn't appeal, cause I typically do love blackcurrent.

The second to get binned was the Deadly Sin - Bourbon, sweet vermouth and maraschino - again forgot the orange bitters - perhaps that's where I went wrong with both.


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Anyway - settled on Delicious from Regan - Tanquaray 10, lime, simple and mint sprig garnish! Just what we needed! Course by the time I'd made it through the two binned drinks and one we kept - I was a tad too pissed to make dinner.