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#61 JustKay

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 07:12 AM

kew

The fried carrot cake is called "chai tau kueh" - it's usually sold in markets in the mornings - but it's non-halal I'm afraid. It's somewhat like char kuay teow but the carbs are in little cubes instead of long flat kuay teow. Daikon is called 'pak lor pak' in Cantonese which translates to white carrots.

Thanks Shiewie - this is one kuih that hasn't been adapted into a Malay kuih.

I was imagining a fried 'carrot cake' literally.

pics of kuih including the Chai Tau Kueh

Edited by kew, 22 June 2004 - 07:13 AM.


#62 Laksa

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 07:22 AM

pics of kuih including the Chai Tau Kueh

kew,

that picture of "chai tau kueh" doesn't look like the chai tau kueh I know. It actually looks more like what the cantonese call "lo bak gou", which technically speaking, is also "radish" cake. A variation on "lo bak gou" which I prefer is made from yam. Killer stuff.

The Singaporean chai tau kueh isn't served in neat pieces, but a messy, gooey, stir-fry affair with eggs, salted radish, and sometimes dried shrimp and sweet dark soy.

Edited to add:
Actually, the second picture from the top shows the yam cake that I'm talking about, but this one is steamed (leftmost kueh, blueish-grey colour with brown stuff on top. The unattractive colour actually belies how good this kueh tastes). I like mine seared on all sides in hot oil until crispy, and served with a spicy sauce.

Edited by wongste, 22 June 2004 - 07:28 AM.


#63 JustKay

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 07:28 AM

pics of kuih including the Chai Tau Kueh

kew,

that picture of "chai tau kueh" doesn't look like the chai tau kueh I know. It actually looks more like what the cantonese call "lo bak gou", which technically speaking, is also "radish" cake. A variation on "lo bak gou" which I prefer is made from yam. Killer stuff.

The Singaporean chai tau kueh isn't served in neat pieces, but a messy, gooey, stir-fry affair with eggs, salted radish, and sometimes dried shrimp and sweet dark soy.

Oh okay .... found this 'white carrot cake' on another page of hers ... white carrot cake

However, this isn't fried and this version I've seen around.

Can you post the correct picture of the Singapore fried carrot cake? Thanks.

I found a recipe on kuali.com but it's in private collection - had to PM for permission to view.

#64 JustKay

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 07:30 AM

Edited to add:
Actually, the second picture from the top shows the yam cake that I'm talking about, but this one is steamed (leftmost kueh, blueish-grey colour with brown stuff on top. The unattractive colour actually belies how good this kueh tastes). I like mine seared on all sides in hot oil until crispy, and served with a spicy sauce.

shiewie brought some lovely yam cakes to my place during our eGullet Malaysian chapter banana cake testing :wink: It came with chili sauce but I don't think it's fried. Are these fried in Singapore?

#65 Laksa

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 07:43 AM

Can you post the correct picture of the Singapore fried carrot cake? Thanks.

I will try to find some...

Edited to add:
Here's one with a recipe. The pic is kinda small though.

If you leave out the optional chinese sausage, I don't see why this dish cannot be made "halal".

That second link you posted contains some incredible pics. If some of them actually show what I think I'm seeing, then there's Brazilian rodizio to be had in Kuching? (the Carvery pictures) Wow! as a Sarawakian (but I haven't been there in a long time), I must say Kuching is more cosmopolitan than I would've thought.

Edited by wongste, 22 June 2004 - 07:50 AM.


#66 Mistinguett

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 12:00 PM

I absolutely loved poh piah as a snack (a roll with shredded daikon, carrots, bamboo shoots, beansprouts and what else, with boiled egg and peanuts and a delicious sauce). It's a Nonya dish and I have a hard time finding a good rendition in NY.
The human mouth is called a pie hole. The human being is called a couch potato... They drive the food, they wear the food... That keeps the food hot, that keeps the food cold. That is the altar where they worship the food, that's what they eat when they've eaten too much food, that gets rid of the guilt triggered by eating more food. Food, food, food... Over the Hedge

#67 Laksa

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 02:41 PM

I absolutely loved poh piah as a snack (a roll with shredded daikon, carrots, bamboo shoots, beansprouts and what else, with boiled egg and peanuts and a delicious sauce). It's a Nonya dish and I have a hard time finding a good rendition in NY.

Have you tried Nyonya on Grand St in Chinatown?

Like many Chinese/Asian dishes, e.g. pao or buns, zongzi (chinese tamales), there are great regional variations to each dish, in the ingredients used and sometimes method of preparation. By regional, I am thinking of the different regions within China itself, but there is even greater variety when you consider the overseas influences like peranakan.

My absolute favourite chung pian (foochow for spring roll) is the one I grew up with, foochow style with bean sprouts, firm bean curd (not the silken tofu but a firmer type), garlic chives, rendered pork fat, lots of ginger, and soy sauce, wrapped in a soft spring roll "skin". The filling is rather wet, and the roll is almost never deep-fried. I've had cantonese, vietnamese, fujien versions, heck even deep-fried bad American chinese take-out version, but for what well be nostalgic reasons, in my mind, nothing beats the foochow chung pian.

#68 BastilaShan

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 05:35 PM

I love fried carrot cake singapore-style too!!
Oh man, i havent had that in over 6 years and that's way too long...
There are a ton of variations to this dish though and I'm drooling just thinking about it. :wub:

Used to have it for breakfast as well.

A nice dessert item would be "Sweet bean curd".
It's bean curd but sweetened and it's really tasty.
Actually, most people have it for breakfast together with soy milk.

#69 Laksa

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 06:13 PM

A nice dessert item would be "Sweet bean curd".
It's bean curd but sweetened and it's really tasty.
Actually, most people have it for breakfast together with soy milk.

Are you talking about "tau fu fa"? This is a cantonese (?) dessert with an incredibly soft and silky version of bean curd, served in a sugary syrup. The bean curd is served from a very large pot, where it's actually curdled whole inside, and thin slices are scooped out into a bowl, over which the sweet syrup is poured.

The bean curd is so fragile it will break apart at the merest touch. You could practically swallow the whole thing without so much as a chew. Great dessert to have if you have no teeth left. :laugh:

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 06:52 PM

a pic of the carrot cake.

http://www.mum-mum.i...t-iii-well.html

i think i had some more pictures around but have to dig through over 1000 pics.

august is coming again.

august = kuching food fest.

a lot of pictures again. :biggrin:

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#71 Shiewie

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 11:35 PM

Chai tau kueh is my all time favourite Singaporean dish.  I haven't seen it done in Malaysia, or anywhere else for that matter, so I believe it is uniquely Singaporean.  I like mine with lots of that salty preserved radish, and eggs.

Hi wongste

We get chai tau kueh in Malaysia - mainly in wet markets in the morning, in some night markets and at Xin Chinese Restaurant in Concorde Hotel for dim sum. Think it's probably Chinese in origin ...Hokkien perhaps?

kew - sorry I didn't elaborate on the types of white radish cake - there are two types, one that is steamed like the yam cake I brought to your place (leftover slices can be fried too) and the other that brad tried, where little cubes of plain steamed white carrot cake is fried somehwat like char kuay teow. The names are also kinda confused - what we call "chai tau kueh" (the fried one) in KL and Singapore is know as "char kueh kak" in Penang while the steamed white carrot cake is known as chai tau kueh there :laugh:.

#72 Mistinguett

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Posted 22 June 2004 - 11:46 PM

I absolutely loved poh piah as a snack (a roll with shredded daikon, carrots, bamboo shoots, beansprouts and what else, with boiled egg and peanuts and a delicious sauce). It's a Nonya dish and I have a hard time finding a good rendition in NY.

Have you tried Nyonya on Grand St in Chinatown?

I did and as much as I occasionally enjoy their food, the poh piah is deeply disappointing - drowned in sauce and with poor filling. The closest to what I had in Singapore came the (now defunct) Coco Reef in Park Slope.
The human mouth is called a pie hole. The human being is called a couch potato... They drive the food, they wear the food... That keeps the food hot, that keeps the food cold. That is the altar where they worship the food, that's what they eat when they've eaten too much food, that gets rid of the guilt triggered by eating more food. Food, food, food... Over the Hedge

#73 Brad Ballinger

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 02:14 AM

And don't forget to try the local coffee at the hawker centers too--it's excellent.

I neglected to mention that I did have this. It came with sweetened condensed milk added into it, which was a bit of a surprise. But still dee-lish.

Brad, planning on eating any durians while you're there?

I'm adventurous, but not an idiot :wink:

Tuesday night, five of us went to an Indonesian place called Sunar (I'm pretty sure it's a chain). The food here was also good. Deep fried (not breaded, though) baby squid, satay with REAL peanut sauce (actual pulverized peanuts mixed with chili paste), some fried green veggies with chili paste, some strange but wonderful tofu-wrapped fried thing, and terrific grilled squid.

Lunch on Wednesday was in the food court of a nearby office building, where I had Laksa (see a post above for a description). This dish delivered the heat, which I cooled down with a papaya puree drink. Tonight, I think I'm being taken to a satay bar. I'm not a fan of the weather, but I love the food here.
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#74 Dian

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 02:56 AM

Brad, planning on eating any durians while you're there?

I'm adventurous, but not an idiot :wink:

ah, I'm Singaporean and I absolutely detest durian too. Durian season is absolute torture for me, having to live with five people who lug back sacks of it.

anyway, its Sanur :smile: . When I saw Sunar I just went crazy trying to remember the name, and I sooo knew it, and I just couldn't get it so I ended up permutating the letters. :laugh:

#75 JustKay

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 03:44 AM

Brad, planning on eating any durians while you're there?

I'm adventurous, but not an idiot :wink:

Awww ..... come one. It's really delish.


anyway, its Sanur  :smile: . When I saw Sunar I just went crazy trying to remember the name, and I sooo knew it, and I just couldn't get it so I ended up permutating the letters. :laugh:


We had Sanur (or was it Samur?) at 1 Utama shopping center, KL some time back but it lasted only about a year or so. But I did get to eat there once. I like Sari Bunda better.

#76 Brad Ballinger

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 01:39 PM

Final installment. I'm here at Changi airport using one of the FREE internet access terminals at 4:30 a.m., local time. Last night was not a satay bar, as I had thought. It was a satay club. In the downtown business district they close off one of the streets at 7:00 p.m. and fill it with tables and chairs. And very active hawkers. We had satay, fried black noodles, grilled stingray (which was nothing short of terrific), oyster omelet, grilled squid with chili sauce, and some tiny (I'd call them cherrystone) clams. And Tiger beer.

We had picked a good night for it. It was actual tolerable to sit outside. What a long, strange and wonderful trip this has been.
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#77 LT Wong

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 05:28 PM

I think your hosts took you to Lau Pa Sat, a wet market in a previous incarnation. It is now an open-air food court. The Satay Club that you mentioned is no more as the site had to make way for the Esplanade, I think.

But three of the original stalls selling satay are making a comeback, but I cannot remember where they're selling now.

Brad, I hope the next time that you visit, you will have some time on your own to explore not just Singapore, but also Malaysia. Both countries have a wonderful variety of foods from the major races and cultures that will be a good introduction to the cuisine of South East Asia.

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 07:50 PM

I wonder if the tiny clams you ate were cockles, instead? Did they have very ridged shells? and did they give off reddish juices?

#79 BastilaShan

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 01:30 AM

Oh yes, I forgot about Grilled Stingray. :wub:
I can still remember the taste of it and ohmi!!
We would go for grilled stingrays with hokkien fried noodles and some fruit juice. Ahhh, those were the days.

#80 Brad Ballinger

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Posted 26 June 2004 - 06:14 AM

I wonder if the tiny clams you ate were cockles, instead? Did they have very ridged shells? and did they give off reddish juices?

Yes, I believe the locals called them cockles. I can't tell if the juices were red, though, since the sauce was red -- and damned hot.
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Posted 21 September 2004 - 10:25 PM

I know this an old thread, but here are some of our favourites from a few years back...


Kupu Kupu Barong...For cocktails on the deck overlooking the Agung River...spectacular view...just outside of Ubud...five minutes maybe and a must see.

Cafe Wayan...on Monkey Forest Road in Ubud. Fantastic Balinese and international cuisine. The owner was invited to California to do a series of cooking classes. Excellent food and on Sunday they have a Balinese buffet which is delightfully authentic.

Casa Luna...run by an Australian woman and her Balinese husband. Janet's Balinese and international dishes are outstanding. She had a cook book out now but don't remember the name.

Lotus Cafe...overlooking a giant lotus pond. Peaceful and relaxing

Ary's Warung...good food although it can be a little noisy as it's on the main drag

Ibu Rai...casual simple Balinese and American offerings with the coldest beer in town. Used to be one of the cheapest too, but don't know about now.

In Kuta try Made's Warung. Excellent food and a good place to people watch or just sip a cold one in the scorching heat.
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#82 Dejah

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 10:13 AM

A collegue of mine is heading off to Singapore come Dec. to teach. Her budget is going to be tight.

She has heard that eating out in Singapore is very expensive. Cooking at home is the way to go. However, the company is putting her in a hotel, so cooking may not be possible.

Any suggestions on where to get decent food at fair prices would be appreciated! :smile:
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#83 lannie

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 01:17 PM

If your colleague is adventurous, she should head over to the ubiquitous hawker centres that are near every bus interchange, located in each HDB Flat estate, sprinkled all over the downtown core, etc.. Most of them are hot, a little 'dirty', but, the food is amazing.

A delicious plate of food can be had for S$2-5, with a drink costing about S$1. It is the best deal in town, and there are so many types of dishes from which to choose.

Edited by lannie, 05 October 2004 - 01:18 PM.


#84 Yuki

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 08:51 PM

I went to Singapore over the summer, and I've been to some supermarket and hawker store. The trend I notice is that most food items are cheap, except for vegetables and some type of fruits. The price of vegetables and fruits are high compare to other dishes in the store/market. Also, for an Asian country, the vegetables and fruits prices are relatively high. Am I going to the wrong place for vegetables?

Edited by Yuki, 05 October 2004 - 09:18 PM.


#85 Ben Hong

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 08:53 PM

Ditto what lannie said. Actually I found that the hawker centres like Lopasat very clean compared to the unorganized, riotous, willy nilly groups of peddlers and hawkers in places Bangkok, Guangchou, even Hong Kong of a few years ago. I also found good food and good bargains in IndiaTown. Oh, Nonya food is GREAT.

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#86 anil

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 09:01 PM

Tel her to regularly check Makansutra a magazine devoted to just that :cool:
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Posted 05 October 2004 - 11:43 PM

I agree that the hawker centres are the best places to taste the real Singaporean food. I had been to Singapore once. I ate mostly at those hawker centres (modern Dai Pei Dong in Hong Konger terminology). They offer Chinese (mostly), Malay and Indian food, plus great dessert soups, fresh fruit juices, etc.. It was wonderful.

In particular, I really liked:
- Chili crab and curry crab. I was treated by my friends to a famous restaurant for those 2 dishes. (They set up tables along the street at night if I remember it correctly) Perhaps the locals on this board can provide name and direction to that place.
- Beef Satay (hawker stands near the Singapore harbor)
- Mutton Curry and Mutton soup (hawker stands near the Singapore harbor)
- Pork jerky in Singapore's China Town? Those were great! I never had pork jerky as juicy and soft as those. They made it fresh off the grill when I bought it.
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#88 LT Wong

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Posted 06 October 2004 - 06:39 PM

Dejah,

There are also air-conditioned food courts in many shopping complexes these days that sell more or less the same varieties of food. It's just that there may be specific stalls that sell superlative versions of some local food that gourmets and gourmands seek out.

If your friend wants to be more selective, perhaps you can ask her to check out these websites :

http://www.makantime.com/index.html

http://food.asiaone.com.sg/

In addition, there are television programmes that feature eating places. One current one tells you places around the island that you can eat for under $2.

Eating out in Singapore is no different from any major city - you should expect to pay top dollar for good food, ambience and service in multi-starred establishments. But there are also lots of good places where you can have a good meal without burning a hole in your wallet.

My suggestion is for your friend to ask her Singaporean colleagues and friends where to eat. We're so crazy about food that practically everyone can tell you somewhere to go to satisfy your cravings!

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 04:15 PM

As someone who used to live in both locations I can give a small update as well:

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Singapore - You have to go to Newton Circus for the local food or I recommend you check out the other end of the scale at Alkaff Mansion http://www.rmgtours....nsion/intro.htm
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 09:59 PM

Singapore - You have to go to Newton Circus for the local food or I recommend you check out the other end of the scale at Alkaff Mansion http://www.rmgtours....nsion/intro.htm

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No no no. Newton Circus is not a must go, there are other hawker centres that offer more variety without robbing the tourists. Such as the Chinatown Complex food centre, the Old Airport Road Food Centre and the Tiong Bahru Food Centre. All easily accessible by bus or taxi.

Alkaff Mansion is no longer in operation.