DC Drinks
#1
Posted 18 June 2008 - 12:30 PM
I see there is an intense thread on good eats in DC as well, so I'll check that out. Apologies if this topic has been brought up fifty times before. Any last minute help would be more than appreciated! Drink, food, music, anything.
Thanks!
#2
Posted 18 June 2008 - 01:43 PM
Cork and Bar Pilar are both doing interesting things at the moment, and are conveniently located more or less across the street from one another in the vicinity of 14th and R/S Streets NW. Cork's bar tends to get incredibly crowded with non-cocktail drinkers, so it's worth going either early or late. Pilar's extra-special cocktail night is Tuesday, but you're in good hands there any night of the week.A last minute trip to DC is in the works, and I'm really hoping to hit up some of the cooler cocktail establishments downtown. I fear I won't be able to find a stellar tiki locale, as would please my blog greatly (www.kaiserpenguin.com), but I'm definitely up for suggestions. More traditional and modern bars would be welcome too.
I see there is an intense thread on good eats in DC as well, so I'll check that out. Apologies if this topic has been brought up fifty times before. Any last minute help would be more than appreciated! Drink, food, music, anything.
Thanks!
Along Pennsylvania Avenue between the Capitol and the White House, you've got the choice of either the uber-traditional Round Robin bar in the Willard Hotel (Penn Ave @ 13th St NW), or the modern twists on classics approach of Central Michel Richard (Penn Ave @ 11th St NW). Proof is also trying the twists-on-classics approach; I don't think they've been quite as successful at it as Central, but others have had better luck than I have.
There are another couple of uber-traditional bars in the vicinity of the White House that come highly recommended - the Town and Country bar in the Mayflower Hotel, and Off the Record in the Hay-Adams Hotel, although I can't personally vouch for either.
Nearer Dupont Circle, the bar at the Tabard Inn is an oasis of calm and civility. They're increasing their focus on classic cocktails, particularly on Wednesday and Thursday nights, although there are at least a couple featured every night, including an excellent Sazerac.
If you're willing to venture into Virginia, Todd Thrasher is doing great things at Restaurant Eve (King St at S. Pitt) and PX (King St. at Columbus). PX is the DC area's entry in the modern speakeasy stakes, and has a dress code - reservations are recommended.
Fortunately, you'll find that the food at most of these is equally as good as the drinks, so you really can't go too far wrong.
#3
Posted 18 June 2008 - 03:35 PM
No problem taxiing about the city, though, if others have ideas.
If we were to pick just one restaurant (not that we won't pick several) that is totally required, which would it be? What are some that are considered to be the best?
Bar Pilar's food sounds phenomenal... I couldn't find a cocktail menu for it though.
Central Michel Richard also looks great. Thanks Hannah.
#4
Posted 18 June 2008 - 06:22 PM
There are quite a few velvet-rope type clubs right around there, but they're not really known for their cocktails. You're reasonable walking distance (4-5 blocks up/4-5 blocks over) from pretty much everywhere I listed except for Restaurant Eve, though - downtown DC really isn't that big.We are going to be staying at the Crowne Royal on 14TH AND K STREETS, NW. Are there any must visit places near there?
You'll get a reasonable amount of argument on this, but I vote for Citronelle, which is Michel Richard's fine dining restaurant. It's tough to get a last-minute reservation, but fortunately they serve a selection of the menu in the lounge, along with the original versions of some of the dishes you'll see on Central's menu. Restaurant Eve in Alexandria is another star - again, tough to get a last minute reservation, but the lounge is an option. You might also have a look at Vidalia - they're doing really interesting things at the moment. I don't think the menu on the web site is completely up to date, but it'll give you an idea.If we were to pick just one restaurant (not that we won't pick several) that is totally required, which would it be? What are some that are considered to be the best?
I really, really like the food at Pilar. A lot. Even more than the cocktails, and I like those quite a bit as well.Bar Pilar's food sounds phenomenal... I couldn't find a cocktail menu for it though.
#5
Posted 18 June 2008 - 06:36 PM
#6
Posted 18 June 2008 - 08:00 PM
You probably know this already, but if you're not, you should be aware that Citronelle (thread here) has almost nothing to do with Michel Richard's cookbook. That stuff's much more likely to be found at Central.Was able to make a reservation at Citronelle for tomorrow night! I love Michel Richard's cookbook, so I jumped on it right away.
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#7
Posted 28 October 2009 - 06:40 PM
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#8
Posted 29 October 2009 - 05:38 AM
We've also been to Tabard Inn...had a decent cocktail and some good bar food. Haven't been yet on a Wednesday or Thursday night, when it's alleged that the best Sazerac to be found in DC might be at Tabard.
Bar Pilar and a few others are on the radar once I start spending some more time down south.
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#9
Posted 30 October 2009 - 08:18 PM
Ginny and I stayed at the Savoy on Wisconsin, a couple of blocks up from Bourbon, this past week & wound up there for drinks and small bites. We agree... nice place, good drinks, good music. The bar next door at Blue Ridge Restaurant was also good, although way more limited. Dinner there was okay as well, although certainly not a destination place. The bar at Dino (on Conn. in Cleveland Park) is also worth going to, even if not staying for dinner (which I really suggest). Scott makes very nice cocktails and the wine list is reasonable and wide ranging.
#10
Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:44 PM
The moving force behind the Bar Pilar cocktail Renaissance has moved on to Proof, where he is now bar manager. I don't know if his passion remains at Pilar or has infused the bartenders Proof, but suspect he was hired to infuse them and that it is worth the gamble. Drop the name "Adam." Proof, which is closer to the Convention Center than Pilar, also boasts storied Winemaster Sebastian Zutant who is more than just another pretty haircut and has 30 wines by the glass and excellent food and and, now that I think of it, should have been mentioned on the "where to eat near the convention center" thread
Gina at PS 7 (who hangs at The Gibson) makes a daring cocktail, and is known for her non-alcoholic bar menu as well, should you be accompanied by Baptists. Tom at Cork, on 14th Street works at a wine bar but has the heart and family of a Mixologist (his brother runs The Gibson and Sister in Law --who may have been on her honeymoon when Weinoo had his mediocre experience there -- is at the Tabard). Pretty good food, too. Won the Beard "Best New Restaurant" for DC. Tom's there every night but Thursday.
Finally, if you get into town on Sunday, it may be worth cabbing or metroing (Columbia Heights) up to Room 11 and The Punch Club. This will also, btw, get you out of the Tourist Zone and into where locals like to go. Hit it on the way back from the only Salvadoran/woodburning pizza restaurant on Earth, Moroni Brothers (accessible by Green Line from the Convention Center, Petworth).
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#11
Posted 07 November 2009 - 08:31 AM
It appears that Gina at PS 7 has moved on, as well, though their focus on unique adult beverages will continue. Her new home, the H Street Country Club is far from the Convention Center in the midst of the new hipster (I mean that in a good way)nightlife district, which is worth a night out in itself. Granville Moore's is where you'd go for food, Rock and Roll Hotel or Palace of Wonders for fun.
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#12
Posted 18 November 2009 - 01:37 PM
Edited by Busboy, 18 November 2009 - 01:38 PM.
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#13
Posted 18 November 2009 - 04:03 PM
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#14
Posted 20 November 2009 - 07:28 AM
It was my understanding that Derek wasn't there but Tom made me a tasty Perfect Martini with Hayman's Old Tom, Dolin blanc, Carpano Antica Formula, and Peychaud's, and then later a tasty concoction with scotch (didn't get the bottle), Plymouth sloe gin, lemon, and apricot eau de vie. A friend asked for something "sweet and rich," and she had a cocktail combining amaretto, creme de violette, and rum: sweet and rich indeed.
I'm staying with friends right around the corner, and when I visit them, I'm visiting here. Thanks, Charles.
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Posted 01 February 2010 - 04:20 AM
Edited by Chris Amirault, 01 February 2010 - 05:10 AM.
Correct error -- CA
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#16
Posted 01 February 2010 - 06:01 AM
Do any bars in DC have the ice to match? A big question, since the water ain't so good.Spent some time at Proof last night and really enjoyed it. Ashley was behind the bar making our drinks, and we had excellent Aviations, Bairns, Millionaire Cocktails, & Rough & Tumbles. The product available is outstanding: lots of Haus Alpenz stuff including Smith & Cross Rum, Plymouth Sloe Gin, Macallan cask strength. In a perfect world, such an excellent cocktail program (by Adam Bernbach, who was also there) would have the ice to match it....
I've taken to making ice in our new apartment with bottled spring water, or at least the Brita filtered water that we use for drinking and for brewing coffee.
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#17
Posted 01 February 2010 - 06:08 AM
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#19
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#20
Posted 12 September 2010 - 07:45 AM
I'm partial to Bourbon, Adams Morgan, only because there's zero pretense, but caveat emptor. They've had some bartender movement recently and that's always an issue; if Caleb is behind the stick, you'll do well.
Churchkey has an amazing selection of beer, properly cared for.
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#21
Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:36 AM
#22
Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:48 PM
After the bugs began to feast on me, we moved into to the bar where I enjoyed a drink whose name escapes me, but contained mezcal, lime, agave, and absinthe. Well balanced and very enjoyable. My husband had something with both a peaty scotch and a bit of gin if I recall correctly -- not the safest combination but the drink was enjoyable. We also had an old fashioned made with their signature Hellfire bitters, that paired well with their maddeningly addictive chickpea fries. It was decent until the copious amounts of ice began to melt, making it quite watery. A problem we encountered at a lot of DC bars. Too many drinks being made with crappy, small ice in this town! The drinks served up at the Gibson were fine, though.
Two days later we made it to Proof for dinner. Overall, the menu of cocktails didn't excite me. The drinks here we tried were not good. We only had two and I have no idea who was behind the stick, but I basically left most of mine untouched. I had the Yarmouth: cachaca and manzanilla sherry with elderflower liqueur, grapefruit bitters and Hitachino Nest's herbal spirit (hops, coriander and citrus). The ingredients never really came together in the way I'd hoped and it was too herbal and unbalanced for me. My husband's Post colonial was a little better (rum, dubonnet rouge, Chartreuse, Peychaud's) but nothing special and I think maybe the Chartreuse proportion was out of whack. Disappointing. Additionally, a lot of the housemade drinks seemed to contain honey syrup, which we both find cloying sometimes in cocktails. Again, since we sat at the table, we had limited interaction with the bartender, and had no idea who was behind the stick that Friday night. Maybe we just chose the two that were weakest. The food however, was really good.
Hoping to grab better drinks elsewhere, we decamped to the Passenger while waiting for our reservation at the Columbia Room in back. Tried a Rhum Ti punch which was fine (maybe needed more lime) but had far too many ice cubes so it got watery fast. My gin, lemon, absinthe drink was not good at all and I didn't finish it as it was too heavy on the absinthe, so the taste of the gin was lost over time. My husband also ordered a mescal, sherry, lime drink, also served on the rocks, that was mostly sherry with a bit of mescal to finish. It was a good idea but I think might need some refinement or work. It also had far too many small ice cubes and turned to water very quickly. Since my husband got the drinks, I didn't see the bartenders work but I suspect they were freepouring.
The Columbia Room, however, was fantastic. Started something unnamed. I believe the base spirit was cognac served with Lapsang Souchong Tea (a smoky Chinese tea with Fujian province), Benedictine, prosecco, orange twist, in a champagne glass. Delicious, not too sweet, not too boozy, not too dry. Next was the Knickerbocker a la señor: dry sherry, fig and orange granita, vanilla, crushed ice. Paired with orange fig blue cheese and raddichio salad with caramel caviar. Delicious and the cocktail and food played very well together, especially the fresh fig against the sherry, fig, and vanilla elements in the cocktail. My husband then asked for their version of the Mai Tai which they serve with Appleton Reserve, housemade orgeat, orange, and perhaps another element or two. It was also excellent -- far too many Mai Tais are just booze delivery devices or fruitier than jello. This was a quirky but balanced Mai Tai. Great service. Good ice. Great technique. Great bartenders who were entertaining. Guests all enjoying fabulous drinks. I'd be here all the time if I lived in DC (and be much much poorer I'm sure). Thank you, Derek!
After dinner the next night, we popped into PS7's where I'd heard a lot about their cocktail list. Gina, their mixologist, wasn't behind the bar that night. And the drinks we had weren't good either. I watched as the bartender sometimes freepoured, sometimes used a jigger, shook drinks in a shaker for 3-4 seconds tops, do a poor job of stirring, and didn't bother to taste any of the drinks going out. My husband's Happy Together (mezcal, chocolate bitters, orange) was fine but served in a short glass with too many ice cubes. Watery, again, in just a few minutes. I liked my Rickey Ricardo but it was a bit watery as well -- couldn't tell if it was the recipe or the bartender's doing but it didn't look like there was a lot of gin to begin with in the drink (I watched him freepour into the glass). My Sun and Sand was far too sweet, especially with the root beer crust, the vanilla was overpowering (I think it needed some acid component), and I just couldn't finish it. Minus points too for the TV set to The Apprentice (ugh) and the bar being right by the bright, frosted glass, sliding kitchen doors (ugh) and the tub of popcorn left without the lid on all night (no wonder it was stale).
Of all of them I'd definitely the Columbia Room again, the Gibson is a strong maybe, and I'd do Proof for food & wine.
#23
Posted 27 February 2011 - 11:57 AM
We had a very good experience at The Gibson, and PS7's was okay (Gina wasn't there the night we were, either). Lots of hill staffers - so it's a bit "stuffy." I usually stick with the tried and true at these places - Manhattans with rye you don't see often in NYC, Martinis, negronis, etc. That way I'm usually not disappointed. And you really have to sit at the bar.
If Adam B. is making your drinks at Proof or Estadio, you're in good hands - unfortunately, he usually isn't.
Tabard Inn, when Chantal Brown is working, is great; but good luck getting a seat at the 8 - person bar.
If you're a beer freak, then Churchkey, upstairs from my favorite DC restaurant (and Best New Chef nominee) Birch & Barley. The food at Churchkey is from that kitchen. Good stuff, and perhaps one of the finest bread baskets I've had.
A new place will be opening "soon" on 18th Street - scotch centric, multiple bars, barbecue - I'm interested to see how it plays out.
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#24
Posted 04 October 2011 - 05:45 PM
I agree with what most people have said here, but have a few points to add:
Bourbon is great, but their original location in Glover Park is nicer for a fewreasons: firstly, it has a large patio allowing outdoor seating much of the year, secondly, it avoids the Adams Morgan crush (I lived there for two years and it's unbearable on weekends), and thirdly it's not as dingy as the one in Adams.
Speaking of Adams Morgan though, seemingly overlooked by many is Tryst, one of AdMo's grandes dames. Their bar is very well-stocked, and their bartenders know what they're doing. They also do pretty good original cocktails, priced well. $7 for a well-made Sazerac? Yes please!
Also, I like to think of Gibson and Passenger as kindred bars for some reason, but the drinks at the Passenger are way cheaper ($9 for rather complex drinks the last time I went, vs over $15 at Gibson), and without any of Gibson's snottiness. That being said, Passenger has its own even snottier version of Gibson in the back of the bar, the Columbia Room, but the staff there are really nasty.
Around the corner from Gibson and owned by the same people is Patty Boom Boom, a Jamaican patty snack bar and reggae venue. If you're at all into rum and rum cocktails, this is the place to go.
And if you want really good agave-based cocktails, the bars at El Centro DF (best rooftop bar in DC by my reckoning) do a good range of original tequila and mezcal cocktails. I particularly like the Lavanda, which is tequila, lavender, and St Germain (I think), and the Red & Smokey: mezcal, agua de jamaica (hibiscus), and chile-ginger syrup.










