[Nathan]

the pizza pebbles are the worst restaurant dish of all time.

almost everything else is spectacular. highly recommend WD-50...but save the pizza pebbles for cats (not good enough to give to dogs)

[ulterior epicure]

Did anyone here ever have the "braised chard pizza" at moto?

[Jesikka]

docsconz, on May 19 2008, 09:25 PM, said:

Jesikka, on May 19 2008, 08:10 PM, said:

I think the pizza pebbles are objectively revolting, but that's just one opinion.  I'm sure someone likes the taste of powdered 3 year old vending machine food.

While you may find the pebbles revolting, what makes your opinion any more objective than mine or others who find them fun? I am not discounting the validity of your opinion, just questioning your subjective use of the word objective in this instance. I, for one, have never had three year old vending machine food, so I can't relate to the comparison. I have had pizze that have tasted like the pebbles, though, and enjoyed the reference to them.

They are chalky fake tasting balls of "pizza". I do not understand what is fun about them; they don't taste good. All four of us- Nathan, Sneakeater, Dave H and I agreed that they were revolting. I simply cannot imagine anyone would disagree, but obviously you do. I didn't taste any pizza- just chalky fake dustiness. I suppose all taste is subjective, but I don't believe that there aren't things that taste bad and the pizza pebbles fall into that category.

[646522]

Since the four of you, Nathan, Jesikka, Sneakeater and Dave H, have taken so much of your valuable time waxing poetic about the pizza pebbles, I would personally like to extend a lifetime free supply of them to each and every one of you!!

All the best,
Wylie

[Jesikka]

Can't I get a lifetime supply of lamb belly? Or the hot dog you're making for PDT? Not to be picky...:)

Have I mentioned that I love lots of other dishes you serve?

[tb86]

Jesikka, on May 20 2008, 06:15 PM, said:

Can't I get a lifetime supply of lamb belly?  Or the hot dog you're making for PDT?  Not to be picky...:)

Have I mentioned that I love lots of other dishes you serve?

ha, didnt think he would call you on it, sad attempt above

[flinflon28]

Slow restaurant news day as this has made Eater.

[Sneakeater]

It occurs to me that the pizza pebbles would make good projectiles in a food fight.

Can't wait to go back to WD-50 now!

[Sneakeater]

Does anybody know what the secondary market is like in pizza pebbles?

[ulterior epicure]

Sneakeater, on May 21 2008, 09:30 AM, said:

Does anybody know what the secondary market is like in pizza pebbles?

No, but I know there's a significant black market for them in Chicago and Roses, Spain.

Seriously, can I wax poetic about those flatbreads? I know I get them free with every meal already, but that was one of the most memorable things for me at wd~50. Do they still have those?

This post has been edited by ulterior epicure: 21 May 2008 - 01:39 PM

[Jesikka]

tb86, on May 21 2008, 09:44 AM, said:

Jesikka, on May 20 2008, 06:15 PM, said:

Can't I get a lifetime supply of lamb belly?  Or the hot dog you're making for PDT?  Not to be picky...:)

Have I mentioned that I love lots of other dishes you serve?

ha, didnt think he would call you on it, sad attempt above

I completely stand by my assessment of the dish, but that doesn't mean that I don't love lots of what Wylie does. I would certainly count myself among a small population of NYers interested in making sure that avant garde cuisine exists in NY. If there's not room for discussion (or "calling me out" as you put it), then there's no reason for sites such as egullet. I'd be happy to drop off a few bags of my pizza pebbles at your house for you to enjoy.

[Bobster]

646522, on May 20 2008, 07:06 PM, said:

Since the four of you, Nathan, Jesikka, Sneakeater and Dave H, have taken so much of your valuable time waxing poetic about the pizza pebbles, I would personally like to extend a lifetime free supply of them to each and every one of you!!

All the best,
Wylie

Me! Me! I'll take 'em! Think of it, you could make a pizza pebble "cookie" with the dough being garlicky!

It sounds icky but I bet it would be great.

[docsconz]

Jesikka, on May 21 2008, 10:37 AM, said:

tb86, on May 21 2008, 09:44 AM, said:

Jesikka, on May 20 2008, 06:15 PM, said:

Can't I get a lifetime supply of lamb belly?  Or the hot dog you're making for PDT?  Not to be picky...:)

Have I mentioned that I love lots of other dishes you serve?

ha, didnt think he would call you on it, sad attempt above

I completely stand by my assessment of the dish, but that doesn't mean that I don't love lots of what Wylie does. I would certainly count myself among a small population of NYers interested in making sure that avant garde cuisine exists in NY. If there's not room for discussion (or "calling me out" as you put it), then there's no reason for sites such as egullet. I'd be happy to drop off a few bags of my pizza pebbles at your house for you to enjoy.

The pebbles are clearly worthy of discussion and your opinion is certainly valid, though I disagree with it. What I objected to, was your use of the word "objective" when you gave your opinion, which is by definition "subjective," as is mine. Would I want an entire meal of pizza pebbles? No, but as a small part of a tasting menu, I enjoyed them very much as I did other iterations of the pebble concept.

Of course, I would think that Wylie's free lifetime supply of pizza pebbles to the four of you would be like getting "free" foie gras in Chicago before the ban was rescinded.

[tb86]

Jesikka, on May 21 2008, 09:37 AM, said:

tb86, on May 21 2008, 09:44 AM, said:

Jesikka, on May 20 2008, 06:15 PM, said:

Can't I get a lifetime supply of lamb belly?  Or the hot dog you're making for PDT?  Not to be picky...:)

Have I mentioned that I love lots of other dishes you serve?

ha, didnt think he would call you on it, sad attempt above

I completely stand by my assessment of the dish, but that doesn't mean that I don't love lots of what Wylie does. I would certainly count myself among a small population of NYers interested in making sure that avant garde cuisine exists in NY. If there's not room for discussion (or "calling me out" as you put it), then there's no reason for sites such as egullet. I'd be happy to drop off a few bags of my pizza pebbles at your house for you to enjoy.

maybe i am the only one that liked them, tasted pretty good at starchefs he did a video demo on them, im sorry I still think its funny,

[iheartoffal]

Sneakeater, on May 21 2008, 09:29 AM, said:

It occurs to me that the pizza pebbles would make good projectiles in a food fight.

Can't wait to go back to WD-50 now!

I find that if you get a piece of the flatbread that's just the right shape and thickness, you can almost throw it like a chinese star. Not that I've ever done it. That would be wasting the pastry kitchen's hard work and that would be wrong.

This post has been edited by iheartoffal: 21 May 2008 - 02:00 PM

[Sneakeater]

I'll let you know next time I'm going.

[Jesikka]

Dave H and I decided to have a "quick bite to eat" at WD-50 last night after we got back from the Berkshires, which turned into a bit of a feast. I'll post more about it later, but highlights were the popcorn soup, eggs benedict and the jasmine dessert. We were also able to sample some really fantastic cocktails and some lovely wines. The desserts seemed every bit as good as the Sam Mason days and definitely very fresh and new and interesting. The savory food all hit that interesting but tastes good note.

If you haven't been in awhile, you should definitely get back to WD-50 asap. My pizza pebbles were nowhere to be seen, though I did notice they're still on the tasting menu.

Oh, and the mignardes at the end- wow!

[ryanj]

Agreed on the desserts. I went recently and had the tasting, the lamb belly was a complete knockout, one of the best dishes I've had in a restaurant. The desserts, by Stupak, were phenomenal. I had his desserts at Alinea, and I believe he has improves by leaps and bounds since then (they weren't too shabby there, either, by the way.) The coconut dessert was amazing, and I have a certain dislike/distrust of solid coconut. The mignardise were a smash, a great end to a fine evening. Also enjoyed a Spanish white I had never had before that was pretty memorable.

[Tiny]

I ate there friday night and had an AMAZING meal. Bone marrow, Lamb tenderloin, pork belly, coconut dessert, jasmine dessert, white chocolate and beer dessert, cherry covered chocolate dessert.

The pork belly was the single best pork belly plate I have ever had, the lamb dish reminded me of "all that is man"...meat potato, pretzel, beer, mustard....Every dessert was spectacular with the coconut being my favorite and I normally hate raw coconut. I have never had Mr Mason's desserts but Mr. Stupak's are borderline flawless....his kung fu is strong.

Over all, one of the top 5 meals of my life!

This post has been edited by Tiny: 28 May 2008 - 08:07 PM

[Shaina]

hey i finally made it to wd-fifty. i did enjoy the pizza pebbles, and the overall experience was great. i even got to meet wylie dufresne, and i had an awesome meal. check out my dining experience + leave me some feedback on my site
http://getinmebelly.wordpress.com/

[Nathan]

pretty new menu (to me anyway).

smoked eel app was meh.

striped bass with wood ear mushrooms and chicken sausage consomme was darn good. liked the concept behind the pork sparerib entree more than the result...but it was still pretty tasty.

coconut cake with brown butter sorbet is fricktastic.

[NY_Amateur]

Nathan, on Sep 26 2008, 05:47 PM, said:

pretty new menu (to me anyway).

smoked eel app was meh.

striped bass with wood ear mushrooms and chicken sausage consomme was darn good.  liked the concept behind the pork sparerib entree more than the result...but it was still pretty tasty.

coconut cake with brown butter sorbet is fricktastic.

I ate there about 3 weeks ago and I think overall it was a much better experience then the last time, the food just seemed tastier to be, I was seriously underwhelmed my first visit (about 18 months ago) but overall it was pretty delicious this time. My dining partner in crime is a vegetarian but wd-50 did a great job accommodating her, I guess the coffee gnocchi was pretty bleh but I didn't taste it. Overall I really feel like it was just so much better then last time and I am glad I tried it again, unfortunately 200~ for dinner is a bit out of my weekly meal pricerange but I think I will stop in here more often for ala carte, not to mention that the deserts which are always ridick. I just got my egullet account and didn't even know this thread existed or I would have posted an in detail review at the time. I do remember the palm seeds cooked in angosutra bitters with the tongue being RIDICULOUSLY good. as were the chocolate packets.

[tan319]

Shaina, on May 30 2008, 07:58 PM, said:

hey i finally made it to wd-fifty.  i did enjoy the pizza pebbles, and the overall experience was great.  i even got to meet wylie dufresne, and i had an awesome meal.  check out my dining experience + leave me some feedback on my site
http://getinmebelly.wordpress.com/

Went to the site, saw no article?

[Kent Wang]

ulterior epicure, on Apr 9 2008, 10:10 AM, said:

Grub Street says: Dusfresne offers lunch beginning April 23.  7-courses for $75, in addition to special lunch dishes.

Has anyone tried this? Is it a good value, say compared to Momofuku Noodle/Ssam, or Jean-Georges weekday lunch ($72 gets you four plates). I realize those might not be the most fair comparisons, but it's what I'm trying to decide between.

[BryanZ]

So I was actually weighing nearly the exact same options recently. Neither NB or SB offer any kind pf prix fixe so you might as well hold off for dinner unless you only have one meal and really want to try one of the Momos. Not sure where you're getting that $72 figure from for JG, perhaps you can clarify. When I called wd~50 to ask about the lunch the other day I was told it's about nine courses for the same $75. Sounds prettty awesome. I'd also highly suggest the lunch tasting menu at EMP for $58, however.

[kathryn]

Ssam Bar has a tasting menu, actually, but it's not written on the standard menu. $75 I think. Not sure if it's dinner only though, I'd call and ask.

[BryanZ]

No prix fixe at lunch. Incidentally, you can't really call Ssam anymore. Everything is done via email.

[ulterior epicure]

BryanZ, on Oct 16 2008, 12:33 PM, said:

No prix fixe at lunch.  Incidentally, you can't really call Ssam anymore.  Everything is done via email.

Soon it'll be like the Emerald City.

So when did the momos start offering prix-fixes? Sorry, I've been kinda out of the loop for a while.

[Kent Wang]

BryanZ, on Oct 16 2008, 09:09 AM, said:

So I was actually weighing nearly the exact same options recently.  Neither NB or SB offer any kind pf prix fixe so you might as well hold off for dinner unless you only have one meal and really want to try one of the Momos.  Not sure where you're getting that $72 figure from for JG, perhaps you can clarify.  When I called wd~50 to ask about the lunch the other day I was told it's about nine courses for the same $75.  Sounds prettty awesome.  I'd also highly suggest the lunch tasting menu at EMP for $58, however.

JG weekday lunch is $28 for two plates, $12 for each additional plate, so that's $72 for four plates -- if memory serves me well.

EMP sounds ok but I think I'd rather splurge for wd-50. Their kind of cuisine is really something that I can't get back home.

I'm definitely leaning towards wd-50, but I'd like to hear if others have tried this lunch tasting menu.

[ulterior epicure]

Kent Wang, on Oct 16 2008, 01:55 PM, said:

BryanZ, on Oct 16 2008, 09:09 AM, said:

So I was actually weighing nearly the exact same options recently.  Neither NB or SB offer any kind pf prix fixe so you might as well hold off for dinner unless you only have one meal and really want to try one of the Momos.  Not sure where you're getting that $72 figure from for JG, perhaps you can clarify.  When I called wd~50 to ask about the lunch the other day I was told it's about nine courses for the same $75.  Sounds prettty awesome.  I'd also highly suggest the lunch tasting menu at EMP for $58, however.

JG weekday lunch is $28 for two plates, $12 for each additional plate, so that's $72 for four plates -- if memory serves me well.

EMP sounds ok but I think I'd rather splurge for wd-50. Their kind of cuisine is really something that I can't get back home.

I'm definitely leaning towards wd-50, but I'd like to hear if others have tried this lunch tasting menu.

I believe that additional plates at JG are now $14, if that makes a difference.