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Louis Lunch A Tasty Oddity (With Pictures!)

#1 User is offline   Jason Perlow

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 08:32 PM

On route to Boston this week, Rachel and I stopped in New Haven, CT for lunch. On the recommendation of Fat Guy, we went to Louis Lunch, a historical monument to the hamburger.

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Founded in 1895, Louis Lunch credits itself with the invention of the hamburger in 1900 when a patron came in and asked for a quick meal he could eat on the run. The luncheonette's owner, Louis Lassert, hurriedly sandwiched a beef patty between two slices of of toast and sent the customer on its way, and the hamburger was born.

Whether you believe the story or not, these burgers are GOOD. The meat is ground on premises every day, and there's a rather bizzare and unique method in which these burgers are actually cooked. For starters, theres these little gas burning "ovens" (that are clearly ancient) which the hamburgers are broiled VERTICALLY in, held together by these wrought-iron baskets.

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Burger broiler ovens in action

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Another view of the broiler ovens

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Burgers, withdrawn from the broiler in the basket grill

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Burgers being assembled

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Burger close up
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Posted 30 October 2003 - 08:35 PM

by the way, Louis Lunch has a written rule -- NO KETCHUP or MUSTARD. Cheese, tomato and onion are the only acceptable garnish. They make Burger Club look outright progressive by comparison.

It should be noted that when we were there for lunch on a tuesday, the place was packed solid and we had to wait a half an hour before we could eat. So be extremely patient. Its worth it.
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Posted 30 October 2003 - 08:36 PM

I'm surprised they let you take pictures of the equipment! The people at Louis tend to be extremely cranky. You must have been very smooth.

Did you see them yell at any customers, like ones who asked for ketchup?
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Posted 30 October 2003 - 08:39 PM

Hey Jason, what's the address on the place? Looks good-those cookers look really interesting.

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 08:41 PM

Fat Guy, on Oct 30 2003, 10:36 PM, said:

Did you see them yell at any customers, like ones who asked for ketchup?

I remember being warned about doing anything embarrassing like asking for ketchup when we were taken there.
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Posted 30 October 2003 - 08:49 PM

Fat Guy, on Oct 30 2003, 10:36 PM, said:

I'm surprised they let you take pictures of the equipment! The people at Louis tend to be extremely cranky. You must have been very smooth.

Did you see them yell at any customers, like ones who asked for ketchup?

No, actually everyone was very civil and quiet, and they didn't mind that I took pictures.
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Posted 30 October 2003 - 08:50 PM

dumpling, on Oct 30 2003, 10:39 PM, said:

Hey Jason, what's the address on the place?  Looks good-those cookers look really interesting.

261-263 Crown Street, in New Haven.
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Posted 30 October 2003 - 09:03 PM

If you go at a quiet time, you can ask for a burger RAW. It's the best steak tartare available anywhere that I know of.
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Posted 30 October 2003 - 10:40 PM

"The Best Of" had a segment on this place on their burger episode, I think.

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Posted 31 October 2003 - 08:55 AM

Yes, that's how we originally heard of them. Everyone was very nice. Oh and burger club notes: their default is a perfectly medium rare burger, served piping hot. Nice beefy flavor, could have used a little more salt. Juiciness of beef, grilled onion and tomato slice easily compensated for lack of commercial condiment.

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Posted 02 November 2003 - 12:14 PM

No ketchup. No mustard.

Maybe I should smuggle in some contraband cucumber relish and have my chauffer hold the grey poupon at the ready in the running Rolls for a quick get away before I am caught in an illegal act by the owners?

Do they allow salt and pepper?

Has anyone every smuggled such contraband into the luncheonette.

I assume that Lunch means no breakfast and no supper. What about weekends?

Any off times they are less likely to be packed? On that Tuesday when did you go there? Any idea how late they are open?

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Posted 03 November 2003 - 12:50 PM

VivreManger, on Nov 2 2003, 01:14 PM, said:

No ketchup.  No mustard. 

Maybe I should smuggle in some contraband cucumber relish and have my chauffer hold the grey poupon at the ready in the running Rolls for a quick get away before I am caught in an illegal act by the owners?   

Do they allow salt and pepper? 

Has anyone every smuggled such contraband into the luncheonette. 

I assume that Lunch means no breakfast and no supper.  What about weekends? 

Any off times they are less likely to be packed?  On that Tuesday when did you go there?  Any idea how late they are open?

Check out their website for more info, menu, ordering tips and a free bag of chips coupon:

click for Louis Lunch

Hours of operation are listed as: Tuesday and Wednesday from 11am-4pm, and Thursday through Saturday from 12noon-2am.

Closed during the second week of January, as well as the week of Good Friday through Easter Sunday. They are also closed during the entire month of August for their annual spoon inventory.
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Posted 05 November 2003 - 10:56 AM

Ling, on Oct 31 2003, 12:40 AM, said:

"The Best Of" had a segment on this place on their burger episode, I think.

for sure. i seen it on da tv too. and i've been dying to go since!

jason, how was it.

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Posted 05 November 2003 - 10:19 PM

The burgers look really thick and juicy. :wub:
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Posted 05 November 2003 - 10:23 PM

tommy, on Nov 5 2003, 12:56 PM, said:

Ling, on Oct 31 2003, 12:40 AM, said:

"The Best Of" had a segment on this place on their burger episode, I think.

for sure. i seen it on da tv too. and i've been dying to go since!

jason, how was it.

Awesome.
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Posted 01 January 2004 - 07:29 PM

Louis' Lunch may have a certain historical, even archeological interest, but foodwise it's a real snoozer.

I mean, chopped meat served on blah white toast smeared with processed cheese spread out of a large tin can? Puh-leeze.

I feel like I just shouted "I don't believe in God!" in the middle of a papal audience, but I said it and I'm glad.

If the line at Louis' is too long, take a stroll to Gastronomique on High Street, between Chapel and Crown, and get gourmet takeout served up by a CIA man. (That's Culinary Institute of America, not central Intelligence Agency.)

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Posted 01 January 2004 - 08:42 PM

Heretic! Burn her! :laugh:

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Posted 01 January 2004 - 08:52 PM

I went about a month ago and enjoyed it. It's true that it's chopped meat served on white toast smeared with processed cheese spread. But it's cooked in an interesting fashion, and particularly with "the works" it... er... works. I didn't think it was the best Hamburger I'd ever had, not even remotely, but it was very good and fairly unique. I was also lucky enough to go around 3:45PM, right when they are least busy, and hardly waited at all.

My other big temptation was to ask the owner exactly at what point they switched from yelling at people when they carved their initials into the walls, counters, tables, floors, ceilings, fixtures, etc., to ignoring that behavior, to eventually encouraging it. It must have been an interesting process.
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Posted 02 January 2004 - 06:42 AM

My husband refuses to go there with me... The ketchup thing pisses him off to no end. I'm serious.

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Posted 02 January 2004 - 05:25 PM

Jason Perlow, on Jan 1 2004, 08:42 PM, said:

Heretic! Burn her!  :laugh:

And, welcome to the site!

You mean, burn HIM! :raz:

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Posted 02 January 2004 - 05:35 PM

kellymonaghan, on Jan 2 2004, 07:25 PM, said:

Jason Perlow, on Jan 1 2004, 08:42 PM, said:

Heretic! Burn her!  :laugh:

And, welcome to the site!

You mean, burn HIM! :raz:

Whoops. My apologies.
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Posted 02 January 2004 - 06:48 PM

Am I correct in assuming that there is also no mayo allowed? A burger without mayo is like a life without sex. Well...not quite, but close :laugh:.

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Posted 02 January 2004 - 11:16 PM

Mayo? How do you taste the meat?
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Posted 03 January 2004 - 02:34 AM

mayonnaise is next to Godliness. :smile:
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Posted 18 June 2007 - 09:10 AM

Hit both Louis Lunch and Yankee Doodle for a cheeseburger sampling last Saturday afternoon, and in my mind, it was no contest: The Doodle blew away Louis.

Louis got first dibs. Went just after opening, about 12:10. There were already 10 people ahead of me, but the first burgers didn’t come out to customers until about 12:30, mine at 12:45. So, service gets a big donut. The hallowed Louis process consists of a borderline surly “grillman” carrying out the following steps: (i) loading 6 burgers into one of three contraptions not unlike a fish grill holder, (ii) standing around and waiting, (iii) removing burgers from holder, (iv) coating crappy, industrial-strength toasted white bread with the thinnest schmear of cheese-like goo, (v) cutting a thin slice of tomato and an even thinner, micro-mini wedge of onion and placing it on toast, and (vi) plopping burger onto bread and slicing it in half.

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This did not augur well for my anticipated enjoyment of the burger. And it indeed was at best mediocre. Despite the claim, the burger was somewhat past medium, rather than the boldly announced medium rare, though it was still mildly juicy. It was devoid of any seasoning whatsoever. And at $14 for 2 burgers and 2 sodas, not exactly a steal. If you’re going for food-history tourism, I guess it’s on the checklist. But for burger pleasure, I recommend steering clear. It's seems to be one of those places that feel that their reputation alone does away with the need to serve a quality product or be concerned with any sort of customer-friendly efficiency.

The Doodle, on the other hand, is a treasure.

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The owner, Rick, was manning the grill and was happy to answer my questions. Their burgers are griddled 2-oz gems with an 80/20 mix. I ordered a standard single cheese, with grilled onions and tomato. The burger is thrown on the grill, and diced onions are sprinkled on top. After roughly 30 seconds, the burger is flipped and mashed down a bit to grill the onions. The cheese and tomato are set on top, and the burger’s covered for a few seconds before being placed on a soft, lightly grilled bun, to which a dab of butter is added as it’s served. The whole cooking process took about a minute.

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Man, it was good: almost perfect meat-to-bun ratio (just a teeny bit too thin, in my book), really juicy, very flavorful. I had to order another. I’m a griddled slider fan, and the Doodle’s are about as good as they get, right up there with my fav Bray’s in Detroit.

I asked Rick about other burger joints in the area, and he suggested Ted’s in Meriden (he said Middletown, though), which was already on my list. He chatted about his life at the restaurant, pointing out a customer further down the counter who had eaten at the Doodle on opening day and still comes by very regularly. As mentioned on other posts, the pigs in blankets, as well as the milkshakes, are reputed to be excellent as well.

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