PDT (Please Don't Tell) -- St. Marks Place. Reviews and Discussion
#183
Posted 02 May 2008 - 11:37 AM
H. du Bois, on May 2 2008, 11:41 AM, said:
Unfortunately yes -- the Staggerac is coming off the menu along with almost everything else. One or two drinks will be sticking around for an encore though.which are staying.
The problem with the staggerac is the supply of Stagg. it was a limited edition and we pretty much exhausted the supply of it.
I feel sorry for people that don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day -- F. Sinatra.
#185
Posted 02 May 2008 - 11:44 AM
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#186
Posted 02 May 2008 - 11:49 AM
I was there & tried the winning drink, "Bitches Brew" (Clément Première Canne, Pampero Anniversario, lime juice, St. Elizabeth All-Spice Dram, Demerera Syrup, and an egg!), and it was delicious.
Full description of the event & winners are here, on NRN's drinks blog:
http://nrnstandardsa...-challenge.html
Will this be added to the PDT cocktail menu?
#187
Posted 02 May 2008 - 12:31 PM
This post has been edited by KatieLoeb: 02 May 2008 - 12:33 PM
Cheers!
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#188
Posted 02 May 2008 - 01:40 PM
I was also a fan of PDT's Sargasso, which took second place -- not just because it was tasty, but also because I got a history lesson about East India Sherry!
#190
Posted 02 May 2008 - 03:03 PM
johnder, on May 2 2008, 02:37 PM, said:
H. du Bois, on May 2 2008, 11:41 AM, said:
Unfortunately yes -- the Staggerac is coming off the menu along with almost everything else. One or two drinks will be sticking around for an encore though.which are staying.
The problem with the staggerac is the supply of Stagg. it was a limited edition and we pretty much exhausted the supply of it.
Noooooooooooooo!
I'm not shaking, I'm crying.
#192
Posted 03 May 2008 - 05:21 PM
H. du Bois, on May 2 2008, 06:03 PM, said:
I'm totally with you. I had to grab a friend and cut out of work early to run down and get one while they're still around.
On the plus side, we got to try something off the new menu, and it was fantastic. Can't wait to see the rest of it.
FWD - I'm hoping at some point the weather will decide to play along with this whole seasonality thing. It takes some of the fun out of fresh spring vegetables when it's wet and freezing outside.
#193
Posted 03 May 2008 - 06:31 PM
I'm a PDT customer who's obviously taken the menu for granted (putting drinking shoes on now)...
"When you look at the face of the bear, you see the monumental indifference of nature. . . . You see a half-disguised interest in just one thing: food."
Werner Herzog; NPR interview about his documentary "Grizzly Man"...
#194
Posted 05 May 2008 - 08:24 AM
This post has been edited by kathryn: 05 May 2008 - 09:54 AM
#195
Posted 05 May 2008 - 01:34 PM
Beer Cassis
Dubonnet Rouge, Theuriet Cassis, Brooklyn Brewery Local 1 beer.
In the 1930’s, aperitif cocktails such as the Byrrh Cassis, which appears in the Savoy Cocktail Book, were commonly enjoyed in sidewalk café’s of cosmopolitan French cities. Hopefully, substituting a better-known quinquina for Byrrh, a proprietary fortified aperitif wine that contains quinine and topping the drink with beer instead of soda will renew the ritual.
The Kin Kan
Beefeater, lemon, house made kumquat syrup, St. Germain Elderflower
This drink was created when winter seasonal produce became scarce as the frost melted and the trees began to flower. Kin Kan, Japanese for kumquat, is a small, aromatic citrus fruit that is cultivated throughout Southeast Asia from autumn until winter. We preserved the last remaining kumquats and are using the syrup and a hint of St. Germain elderflower liqueur to sweeten this floral spring sour.
Swiss Mist
Plymouth Gin, lemon, grapefruit syrup, egg white, Kubler Absinthe
This grapefruit-accented silver gin sour is finished with a mist of Kubler Absinthe Suisse Blanche, distilled in the Val- de- Travers region of Switzerland where absinthe traces it’s roots. Absinthe Suisse Blanche, which forgoes the herbal maceration before bottling that gives green absinthe it's color is traditionally distilled with local alpine plants and botanicals.
The Rose
Noilly Pratt Dry Vermouth, Clear Creek Kirschwasser, raspberry
This drink appears in Petits et Grands Verres, a 1930’s French cocktail book that calls for the drink to be made with sirop de groseille: red currant syrup. Until fresh berries are available locally, we’re substituting raspberry preserves to give this cocktail a hint of what’s to come.
Bee's Sip
Chamomile infused Barsol Quebranta Pisco, Masumi “OkudenKantsukuri” sake, Barenjager Honey Liqueur
“OkudenKantsukuri”(mirror of truth), is a junmai sake bottled with no added alcohol from refined rice grains by one of Japan’s historic brewers.The sake balances the chamomile and elderflower in Jim’s shout out to ace Pegu Club bartender, Kenta Goto. We’re hoping this is the May flower you’ve been waiting for after all those April showers.
Pearl Button
Mae De OuroCachaca, Lime, Lillet Blanc, San Pellegrino Limonata
What do you call a drink mixed with Brazilian cachaca, a French quinquina and a citrus-spiked Italian mineral water? Is it a bird? A plane? A caipirinha collins or a corpse reviver #7? Well, John Deragon’s name for it is so damned catchy, we gotta run with it.
Chien Chaud
Rhum J.M. Blanc, Yellow Chartreuse, Coconut Water
On a recent trip to Martinique, I asked cocktail maven David Wondrich if he’d be willing to share a recipe for the spring menu. After our visit to the J.M. distillery,we enjoyed ti punch and ate entirely too many acras (salt cod fritters)and then it came to him: the one and only hot dog cocktail.
East Village Athletic Club Cocktail
Siembra Azul Blanco Tequila, Lemon, Yellow Chartreuse, Grand Marnier
The Last Word, a beguiling mixture of equal parts gin, lime juice, Green Chartreuse and maraschino liqueur was first documented in Ted Saucier’s Bottoms Up in 1951. Saucier credited the Detroit Athletic Club for sharing the recipe: we tinkered with the recipe and named it after our hood.
Rhubarbarita
Partida Reposado Tequila, lemon, rhubarb puree, Grand Marnier, Veloce
As soon as we could secure a sufficient quantity of rhubarb, Don prepared a puree sweetened with Partida’s agave nectar that Jim usedto make a margarita spiked with Veloce, an Italian spirit that treads the line between flavored vodka and stone fruit eau de vie. Enjoy it until the short rhubarb season comes to a close.
French Maid
Hine “H” Cognac, lime, sugar, Velvet Falernum, ginger beer, mint, cucumber
A Hendricks gin mojito with muddled cucumber has popped up on menus all over the country in the past few years. Milk & Honey barman Sammy Ross substituted bourbon for gin and dubbed it the Kentucky Maid giving us a moniker to create a drink family. Jim’s contribution, the French Maid, is a spicy addition to the family made with clove and almond spiced Falernum and house made ginger beer.
The Mariner
Compass Box Oak Cross, pineapple juice, lemon, smoked cardamom syrup
It’s hard to imagine a bunch of weather-hardened sailors sipping gimlets. The historic cocktail of choice among British Naval officers has fallen from grace as bartenders all over the world force artificial Rose’s lime cordial to walk the plank. John’s alternative is made with a blended malt Scotch whiskey mixed with citrus, pineapple and a smoked cardamom syrup that reminds us of the days when spices came to market on ships sailed by hard drinking sailors.
Hotel d’Alsace
Bushmills, Cointreau, Benedictine, rosemary
To commemorate the 400th birthday of Bushmills, we decided to put Irish whiskey to work in something other than a shot glass. David Slape named the drink after the posh Parisian hotel that Irish scribe Oscar Wildemspent his last years in. Although Wilde was fond of drinking absinthe in his final years, we think he may have appreciated this lavish dram of Irish whiskey, French liqueur and fresh spring herbs.
The Brown Bomber
George Dickel No. 12, Lillet Blanc, Suse
We substituted Hard hitting Tennessee Whiskey for gin in the recipe for Nick Blacknell’s White Negroni and named it after the champ: Joe Louis, nicknamed the Brown Bomber of Detroit. Louis, considered the greatest heavyweight fighter of all time, lost his first title fight in 1936, regained it in 1937 and defended it for 12 years, fighting 24 times and recording 22 knockouts. Defend your title.
Dewey D
Old Overholt rye whiskey, Lustau East India Sherry, Aperol
Don Lee fashioned this Negroni tribute cocktail of sorts with rye whiskey (although not Canadian like the man himself) and Sherry since Dewey has always featured it in his beverage program at WD 50. Wylie Dufresne is the draw at WD 50, but let’s not forget that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Benton's Old Fashioned
Bacon infused Four Roses Bourbon, Maple Syrup, Bitters
The crossroad of Haute Barnyard and Barroom: using his connections to the artisan commodities market and science, bartender Don Lee combined one of the foodstuffs we all crave with beloved bourbon and got us through the winter. This one’s too good to take off the menu.
Bizet
Shinn Estate Rose, Luxardo Bitter, Amaro, Moet White Star
David Slape makes yet another contribution to the ever expanding opera cocktail genre with the Bizet, a Champagne Americano of sorts named after Gorges Bizet, a gifted 19th century French opera composer who wrote the score to Carmen.
The Rite of Spring
Tanqueray Gin, Vya Dry, Momofuku's ramp pickle juice
When ramps, the wild spring onions that sprout up in cool, forested regions of the Northeast show up at the farmers market: we all know that spring has officially begun. To commemorate their arrival, Don refashioned the "dirty" martini, the mixological equivalent of someone putting a cigarette out in your beer, with pickled ramp brine from Momofuku Ssam Bar and dry vermouth from Quady Winery in California.
Coda
Pampero Rum, Neisson Rhum Blanc, Lime, Demerara, Allspice Dramm, egg
In music, a coda (Italian for "tail") is a passage that brings conclusion to a particular piece. Beethoven developed the coda into a feature of utmost importance in his sonatas. In Daniel Eun’s words, “The coda allows one, after having worked through the exposition, development, and climax of a piece to look back upon the main body; take it all in, and end with a sense of balance.”
Wylie Dog
Deep Fried Crif Dog, Deep Fried Mayo Cubes, Tomato Molasses, Freeze Dried Onions, Romaine lettuce
This post has been edited by johnder: 05 May 2008 - 02:25 PM
I feel sorry for people that don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day -- F. Sinatra.
#196
Posted 06 May 2008 - 04:50 PM
Now . . . how best to get a drink at PDT?? We've tried the last three times we were in NYC -- the first time we showed up after dinner at Saam around 11:30 (Fri) and there was nothing the rest of the night. Second time was Superbowl Sunday and, if memory serves, they were closed. Third time I called around 3:15 p.m. on a Friday -- my birthday -- I interrupted lunch at Jean Georges and spent 15+ minutes trying to get through and when I did they were fully booked already. Next trip to NYC will most likely be a Tuesday -- what are my chances and what is the best way to insure a spot for a drink(s) (and a Wylie dog??)
This post has been edited by Mussina: 06 May 2008 - 04:51 PM
#197
Posted 06 May 2008 - 04:52 PM
If none are available, show up right when they open and ensconce yourself at the bar. You can always call and ask if they have open bar seats at the moment.
#199
Posted 06 May 2008 - 05:41 PM
Update: even on "slow" nights they're not that slow. Just tried to stop by at around 11:30 PM on a Tuesday. Quoted wait for 2 was about an hour, and I saw a few parties lingering inside Crif Dogs, already waiting.
This post has been edited by kathryn: 06 May 2008 - 08:52 PM
#200
Posted 06 May 2008 - 10:22 PM
Stopped in tonight on my way in from the airport; I had the (rare, for me!) chance to chat with Jim and sample two of the spring offerings. The French Maid was exactly what I expected; really a perfect drink for the exceptionally summery evening. The Bizet was likely as expected (a highly-tweaked Americano with a lot of wine character) and almost exactly like something I was whipping up at the end of last summer using a sparkling Malbec.
The nice thing about the drinks this menu around is how they bounce around the sour/acid/light body/heavy body/booziness spectrum. F'rex, what with jetlag coming on, it was nice to have something refreshing but not stupor-inducing. I may have preferred some of the winter offerings to the spring offerings as individual drinks, but this is a better-composed menu overall, IMO.
#202
Posted 09 May 2008 - 10:19 AM
Mussina, on May 6 2008, 07:50 PM, said:
The most reliable way I've found is to show up right at 6 and get spots at the bar. But it has to be right at 6. Last week my coworker and I showed up at like 6:15, 6:30 and couldn't get in. In that case we went over to Death & Co for a drink, then went back and hung out at Crif Dogs till seats opened up. (You know how they say as soon as you light a cigarette at a bus stop, your bus will show up? I find the same works for hot dogs. As soon as the Crif Dogs lady hands you your order, bar seats open up at PDT.)
When I have a bigger group of people, I just call right at 3 and keep trying till I get through. I've usually been able to get something if I was a bit flexible about when I could make it.
FWD - possibly getting too intimately acquainted with that deer head at the end of the bar.
#203
Posted 27 May 2008 - 05:14 PM
- Joe
#204
Posted 28 May 2008 - 02:06 PM
maf, on May 27 2008, 08:14 PM, said:
Their usual shift is Monday nights. There will be some excellent bartending though, whatever night you decide to go.
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#206
Posted 01 June 2008 - 11:37 AM
On the whole, the spring drinks at PDT are lighter than the drinks I've had there over the past 10 or so months I've been able to drink there. The Swiss Mist is scarily easy to drink, the kind of cocktail you could down in five minutes without even thinking about it. The French Maid was of a similar school but, to me, tasted like many other cocktails I've had before. The Mariner was, thankfully, not overwhelmed by the pineapple juice and picked up a really nice smoked spice note from the smoked cardamom syrup. I really liked the Coda though my friend didn't like the combination of creamy, citrusy, and spiced. The Beer Casis was an interesting drink but was a bit two-dimensional for my tastes. It tasted of beer, then fruit, almost like Lindeman's lambic. The Dewey D struck me as a well made negroni, though I would've liked a bit more bitterness. My memory of this drink is also a bit skewed. Finally, the Bee's Sip was kind of bizzare. It reads like a light, sweet drink but I actually found it pretty harsh. The distinct honey notes are there--the sake not so much--but it had a definite edge to it that I found nearly unpleasant.
So all in all, a very successful visit in which I got to try lots of stuff. The Wylie Dog is a good one, but I still think I like the Chang more. The lettuce on the former was a bit too much.
#207
Posted 01 June 2008 - 06:12 PM
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#208
Posted 01 June 2008 - 07:16 PM
#209
Posted 02 June 2008 - 04:21 AM
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#210
Posted 04 June 2008 - 12:13 PM
chrisamirault, on Jun 2 2008, 07:21 AM, said:
We use smoked cardamom pods, bring it to a boil with a 1:1 simple syrup and let it steep. Cool. Enjoy.
I feel sorry for people that don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day -- F. Sinatra.






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