#1
Posted 03 August 2002 - 10:18 AM
As Waverly Root pointed out in The Food of France, much of the character of an area's cuisine is determined by the type of cooking oil used. I believe this is true in India, as well. You mentioned that mustard oil is used in the north, for example. Does "ghee" properly ever refer to anything but clarified butter? (I have seen labels, saying "vegetable ghee."
What other oils are regularly used? Are certain oils preferred in certain regions? Are certain oils used for certain foods?
#2
Posted 03 August 2002 - 10:23 AM
It is used across most of North and Central India and also parts of the East and Western India.
In Bengal they use a lot of Mustard oil with fish together. Simon would be our best bet on learning more about this.
Pickles in North and Central INdia are always made with this oil.
Vegetable Ghee is like Crisco. Not ghee.
Ghee is clarified butter.
Different regions of India use different oils.
Maybe you can glance through the threads on Introduction, regional and even some debating the different styles of Indian cooking and you shall find more stuff on this.
When back in NYC later tonight, or maybe by Monday, I will take time and write more.
#3
Posted 03 August 2002 - 10:43 AM
Reading those threads is what inspired the questions.Maybe you can glance through the threads on Introduction, regional and even some debating the different styles of Indian cooking and you shall find more stuff on this.
#4
Posted 03 August 2002 - 11:55 AM
#5
Posted 03 August 2002 - 05:32 PM
You should be able to find it if you have a good Indian grocery shop around you.
I have found that different brands have different levels of flavour and aroma.
The best ones I've had are from India and have a pronounced mustard taste and smell.
It is great to marinate steaks in mustard oil, especially if they have some fat on them for the fat really soaks up the mustard flavour.
I have heard that mustard oil tenderises meat aswell, but i'm not sure if thats true.
#6
Posted 04 August 2002 - 07:12 AM
#7
Posted 04 August 2002 - 07:19 AM
Is this correct? Also, Sandra, where did you get the mustard oil?
#8
Posted 04 August 2002 - 07:48 AM
I bought the oil at the Indian spice store, Dowel, on First Avenue just south of East 6th Street.
#9
Posted 04 August 2002 - 02:07 PM
Yes all mustard oil is first burned and then cooled and cooked only after that process.I'm getting ready to make vindaloo, and was just reading up on mustard oil. Don't know if this is true or not -- Julie Sahni says that "mustard oil in its raw form has a very strong smell that many people find unpleasant. Before Indians use it in cooking, it is put through a mellowing process. This is done by heating the oil to a very high temperature (smoking point), which releases the pungent smell and vaporizes the oil. When cool, the mustard oil is ready for use."
Is this correct? Also, Sandra, where did you get the mustard oil?
Madhur and Sahni are correct and please follow their steps.
Will be back tomorrow in full swing.
#10
Posted 04 August 2002 - 04:39 PM
Thats interesting. I knew that if you cooked with it the flavour of the oil mellowed, but I didn't know it was meant the be 'pre-cooked'.Yes all mustard oil is first burned and then cooled and cooked only after that process.
I actually like the raw taste on some foods.
#11
Posted 04 August 2002 - 04:40 PM
#12
Posted 04 August 2002 - 05:50 PM
#13
Posted 05 August 2002 - 04:27 AM
#14
Posted 05 August 2002 - 06:35 AM
No, not really -..... do you think the mustard oil will be too weird tasting? The marinade is pretty hot.
#15
Posted 05 August 2002 - 09:17 PM
In homes in the Punjab or even Uttar Pradesh in Northern India where they use Mustard Oil, it is common practice to bring the oil to smoking point first, just the oil, and then cool it before being used. This helps tone down the otherwise pungent smell and taste.
In Eastern India (Parts of Uttar Pradesh, Orissa, Bihard and especially Bengal), Mustard Oil is the favorite medium of cooking.
In fact in each of these areas, there are dishes in which it is essential to use Mustard oil, for it imparts the characteristic flavoring associated with the oil.
#16
Posted 05 August 2002 - 09:19 PM
Wingding,One of the most interesting things that I remember seeing in a New Dehli market was an oil press-where mustard oil was pressed to order for customers.It was an old contraption;the oil was put into a plastic bag,and the husks and waste came out in a flat sheet,resembling kelp.
You have really discovered an India few Indians would know. How lucky you are. You must have really planned your trip with great care. It is great reading about your Indian trip around the forum. You always share amazing tid-bits of information. Thanks!
#17
Posted 05 August 2002 - 09:21 PM
Toby,Thanks, Anil. At this point, it's becoming more like New York vindaloo -- the meat is marinating until tomorrow -- do you think the mustard oil will be too weird tasting? The marinade is pretty hot.
I would usually not use Mustard oil for this dish for it is very hot but the spicing is quite subtle. The heat if from the chilies, but the small amounts of other spices that are used would get quite overwhelmed by the oil. Also, mustard oil will add further pungency to an already quite pungent dish.
#18
Posted 05 August 2002 - 09:24 PM
Polly, there are many Indians that love it strong. Especially in the Eastern part of India.Thats interesting. I knew that if you cooked with it the flavour of the oil mellowed, but I didn't know it was meant the be 'pre-cooked'.
Yes all mustard oil is first burned and then cooled and cooked only after that process.
I actually like the raw taste on some foods.
But in the US, bottles of Mustard oil must say that it is considered harmful for human consumption.
Is that not curious?
My father always got a sore throat after eating in homes where the food was prepared with mustard oil. And then there were those in the larger family and friend circle who felt he was missing something very special by not enjoying Mustard oil with more dishes.
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