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[Bill Poster]

Went to Brugge;girlfriend thought i was being romantic- in the end i had sampled 15 different brews and i cannot remember all.

My top five

Leffe
Westmalle tripel
Zot
Hendrik
Brugge Tripel

the last 3 fantastic local brews

Orval, Palm, Duvel worth a mention of course

[Kent Wang]

Are we talking about Belgian style or actually made in Belgium?

Of your list I think I've only seen Leffe and Duvel.

My favorites from Belgium are Nostradamus and Troublette, both by Brasserie Caracole.

[cdh]

Rodenbach Grand Cru

Rochefort 10

Duvel

Maredsous 10

Timmerman's Geuze

[eje]

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My favorites from Belgium are Nostradamus and Troublette, both by Brasserie Caracole.

Oh, cool! I saw the Nostradamus just last weekend and was wondering about it. I will have to give it a try.

Somewhere I read, the odder the name and the label of Belgian Beer, the more interesting the beer inside. Nostradamus certainly has a quirky name and label!

~Erik

[TongoRad]

Like all of my top lists, this is subject to change at any moment but for now:


Orval
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Rodenbach

Drie Fonteinen Gueuze

Westvletern 12

Maredsous 8

[plattetude]

In no particular order (and 5 is too small a number to choose for such a varied beer-producing region!):

Hapkin
Rodenbach Grand Cru
Orval
Karmeliet Tripel
Rochefort 8

Christopher

[eje]

I seldom come across Belgian beers I don't like.

I've recently been fascinated by the beers of Brasserie Fantôme and the Belgian style beer of Belgian expat Pierre Lebbe at Brasserie Lebbe.

The Brasserie Fantôme are dry and fantastically complex and probably not appealing to all, with their clear notes of hay and farmyard (brett).

However, I find, after tasting both of these clearly hand made beers, the clean tasting Belgian style ales of Unibroue and Ommegang seem a bit soul-less.

I did recently try a new Belgian beer called something like "lost cow" that I didn't care for. It was darker in style, almost like a Belgian Barley Wine. Just didn't do it for me.*

~Erik

*Haven't figured out what this beer was called; but, I suspect it may have been from the Netherlands, not Belgium.

Edited by eje, 01 June 2006 - 02:05 PM.

[slkinsey]

Hmmm... I've never managed to get very good Orval in the States. I think it's especially sensitive to handling.

Mine favorites in no particular order, would go something like this:

Rodenbach Grand Cru
Chimay Cinq Cents
Any of the really sour, horsey lambics
Duvel

I need to get back into beer more. I used to really seek out a lot of interesting beers, especially beers of Belgium. But my beer drinking has tapered off as my cocktail and spirits drinking has increased. I was reminded of my fondness for Belgian beers during a recent trip to Burp Castle in NYC for a friend's birthday. Sadly, their once comprehensive list has seriously declined over the last decade. I can remember when it wouldn't fit on a single page.

[sadistick]

Hoegaarden
Leff Blonde
Duvel


I have also had some of the worst beers ever tasted from Belgium. This wierd honey beer, and a pineapple beer!?!? Ick!

[RagallachMC]

5. Saison Dupont
4. Geuze Boon
3. De Koninck
2. Duvel
1. (tie) Chimay Blanche and Bosteels Tripel Karmeleit


If we include american producers of Belgian styles, then Ommegang's Hennepin would have to be squeezed in there somewhere.

[Rich Pawlak]

Maredsous 8

Leffe Brown

Kwak

Rodenbach Grand Cru

Boon Marriage Parfait

[Peter Green]

Going through my notes from last year's trip, my five would be:

Morte Subite - Sudden Death, a Belgian game of chance actually, but also a great name for a great beer

Leffe Blonde - always an easy choice

Hapkin Blonde - recommended by Michael Jackson, and a nice counterpoint to the easy-to-find Leffe.

Pauwel Kwak - for the wooden contraption to hold the glass if nothing else

Cantillon Rose de Gambrinus for a framboise



The beer circus in Brussels is a great place to graze through things. Plus, they have a wonderful hamhock with mustard.

If you're buying for the room, the Temple of Beer is a pleasant place of worship.

[BonVivantNL]

are you nuts?! i can't answer this question :)
not in any particular order: Westie 8 [or 12. can't decide!], Leffe tripel, Rochefort 8, Caracole Cuvée, Gouden Carolus Tripel.

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[i'm so lucky to be living in NL...so easy to obtain all my favourites!!! :) ]

[Okbrewer]

Geez! I could claim five beers just from one brewery! In fact, that brewery would be De Dolle! I like all their beers, Arabier, Oerbier, Boskeun, Stille Nacht, Dulle Teve, etc! Let's see! Then there would be Rochefort 6, 8, and 10! Of Course Westmalle beers would make my lust, er, list! And most lambics or Gueuzes would make my list, too! Oh heck, let's just say all the Trappists and Abbey beers! I can't narrow it down to just five! I LIKE ALL BELGIAN BEERS! (Well, I'm not too fond of Stella Artois!)


Bob R in OKC

[Walter Moar]

Oh, yum, I like this game! Let's see:

1. Duchesse de Bourgogne
2. Rodenbach Grand Cru (yes, I like the acetic ones!)
3. Rochefort 8
4. Petrus Oud Bruin
5. Chimay Red

[Nishla]

I was just in Belgium a few weeks ago, and I don't think we had a beer we didn't like. Favorites were:
Westmalle Tripel (Double was pretty good too)
Rochfort 8
Morte Subite
Chimay Blue

Unfortunately, we were only there for 3 days, so our tasting capacity was limited. I'm itching to go back, but in the meantime, the Whole Foods near us carries quite a good selection of belgian beers.

[eje]

Tried the "Reinaert Flemish Wild Ale" from De Proefbrouwerij last Friday.

At 9%, it certainly was a good way to get the party started.

It's a tart, dry beer with elements of fruit in the nose.

I enjoyed the first few sips; but, as it warmed, a bitter element to the finish lingered at the back of my tongue. Pretty striking Hay-Barnyard-Brett funk element to the aftertaste, as well.

It's an interesting beer; but, I doubt I would seek it out again.

Edited by eje, 12 June 2006 - 11:23 AM.

[raxelita]

For one, it depends on how the beer is served:
I could normally pass on any of the Chimays in bottles, but on tap that stuff turns into something else; same with De Konink.

I'm surprised no one mentioned Troubadour yet, one of my current favorites.

Otherwise, I stick with the Trappists, Westmalle Triple being my top pick.

[SheenaGreena]

by the way, I absolutely LOVE this post.

in no particular order


westmalle tripel
rochefort 8
chimay (blue label)
kwak
Karmeliet Tripel



by the way, I love how we all have exceptional taste

[Kent Wang]

Has anyone had Avery Brewery's (Boulder, CO) The Reverend? It is a Belgian quadrupel ale and has a very unusual sweet flavor and a bit of fruitiness, totally unlike any other Belgian style ale I've ever tasted. The website indicates that they use a lot of added Belgian candy sugar. I wonder if this style is a New World invention or if there are breweries in Belgium that make a similar style?

[cdh]

"quad" is just marketing blather for a belgian strong dark ale. There are plenty of them, both Trappist and non-Trappist. See http://www.bjcp.org/...8.html#style18E for a discussion of the style.

[Kent Wang]

"quad" is just marketing blather for a belgian strong dark ale. There are plenty of them, both Trappist and non-Trappist.  See http://www.bjcp.org/...8.html#style18E for a discussion of the style.

What a great resource! Thanks for the link.

Actually, what I am interested in is not the 'quad' designation but the high amount of candy sugars.

[Susan in FL]

All these listings of Belgian beers are making me wish I liked them more than I do. Are there any suggestions from the lists for someone like me who wants to acquire a taste for them, but doesn't like the strong presence of banana bubblegum?

[plattetude]

Are there any suggestions from the lists for someone like me who wants to acquire a taste for them, but doesn't like the strong presence of banana bubblegum?

Hmmm. Seems to me that it's really only the witbiers that would have the banana/bubblegum ester thing going on. And even then, I don't think it's too pronounced in most Belgian brews, what with the spicing and all (coriander, orange peel, etc etc); it's more in the German weizens that you'll really get banana to a noticeable degree.

If you're looking for Belgian brews that aren't so sweet, that's another story though... Typically, there will be more sweetness and less bittering in general (and also a disposition to a balancing sourness rather than bitterness), but there are always exceptions. Orval, to my mind, is the gold standard of the more bitter side of Belgian brewing. So there's something to try!

What Belgians (styles and/or specific breweries) have you tried and not liked?

Christopher

[cdh]

Susan, it must be that different people are wired differently, because I've never tasted a beer that had an identifiable banana or bubblegum flavor... at least as far as my palate is concerned. What Belgians have you tried where you've noticed it?

I doubt a golden strong ale like Duvel would be objectionable in that way.

Witbiers get some spiciness, but no bubblegum or bananas.

You sure won't get gum or anything other than wine-y fruit from the sour ale family, e.g. everything from Rodenbach, Liefmans Goudenband.

Lambics have lots going on in them, but I don't think bananas (unintentionally) or bubblegum (ever) turn up in them.

[C_Ruark]

Surprised no one's mentioned Delirium Tremens!

THAT is a great beer.

~ C

Edited by C_Ruark, 14 June 2006 - 08:23 AM.

[Susan in FL]

I don't remember which Belgians I've tasted and gotten banana/bubblegum, probably because I dismissed them right away. It could be that it's also sweetness that I don't like. It's no secret around here that I don't like sweet beer. I hope I'm not getting mixed up about a type of beer; however, I do think it's Belgian beer that reminded me of bananas and/or bubblegum. I also don't like pronounced sourness. In any case, some Belgian-style beers that I liked were by Ommegang. Am I correct in my recollection that Ommegang beers are Belgian-style?
Maybe I should just accept it that I don't care for these beers and move on, but I hate it when others are so enthusiastic about a certain kind of beer and I don't enjoy it.

[cdh]

In any case, some Belgian-style beers that I liked were by Ommegang.  Am I correct in my recollection that Ommegang beers are Belgian-style?

Yup, Ommegang is Belgian in style. The eponymous Ommegang is in the style of a Belgian dubbel, and the Hennepin is a Saison/Farmhouse Ale/Biere de Garde type beer. I'm not so much a fan of the 3 Philosophers, as I find it too sweet and too hoppy for a style that should have a more pronounced sourness. The Rare Vos just strikes me a not particularly interesting. Their Witte is an alright witbier, but I like the Celis and Hoegaarden style more.

The joy of Belgian beers is that they are all so varied and different. "Belgian" doesn't really signify a style, but rather tells you you're rolling the dice and anything might come up in your glass if you don't know what you're asking for. I find that fun, though there are some belgian styles I don't care for.

Trippels are not my cup of tea. Too sweet and hoppy for my tastes...

Edited by cdh, 14 June 2006 - 09:57 AM.

[Susan in FL]

I hadn't thought of their being varied and different from each other. Thanks, Chris!
Carry on... Any more top fives?

[cdh]

For a tour of some of the many and varied Belgian styles, have a look at http://www.bjcp.org/styles04/ and go through the subcategories under 16, 17 and 18. That at least scratches the surface of Belgian brewing, but is by no means comprehensive.