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#1 Adam Balic

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 01:19 AM

I am very interested in fish and seafood. One of the good things about moving continents is that the local fish tend to be completely different. Hence, I have a lot of fish images. I thought that a single thread would be a good place to put them and obiously, if other people have images that would be excellent.

First up.

The fish:
Salmo trutta, "sea-trout", "salmon-trout", "selwin" etc. Actually, this is a type of Brown trout, that has a sea migratory phase, only returning to freshwater to spawn. They are delicious, I prefer then to salmon (Atlantic). As I don't eat farmed salmon, it tends to be a rare treat, but on this occasion I rejected hugh wild salmon in favour of this sea-trout.

About 3 kg and 50 cm long
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Poached and served with a Normandy sauce (cider, creme fraiche etc)
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 01:42 AM

Adam, what a great idea for a thread! I look forward to the next fishy post. :biggrin:

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 04:34 AM

Outstanding. Beautiful plate too. Did you put anything in the cavity before poaching?
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:15 AM

Outstanding.  Beautiful plate too. Did you put anything in the cavity before poaching?

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Just some leeks, thyme, salt and pepper.

Next fish is a Indian ocean snapper, not idea of the species. Weirdly, good fishmongers are an exception in Edinburgh. On shop that is very good (Eddie's Seafood) imports fish like this that is fresher then local fish sold by other shops. Go figure.
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Baked in vine leaves with sort of a Sicilian stuffing (capers, tomato, mint, pine nuts)
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:20 AM

A meal from Cinque terra (Liguria) a few years ago. A terracotta amphora is filled with seafood (cuttlefish, shovel-nosed lobster, clams, mussels, scampi and mantis shrimp, in a wine broth flavoured with tomato, saffron, thyme, anchovies (and a few other things they wouldn't tell me). This is sealed and baked in an oven. Whatever you don't eat is used to produce a sauce for pasta.
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:24 AM

Arbroath Smokies. These are haddock that are hot smoked in pairs from a geographically defined area in the east coast of Scotland.
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In this case I used them to make a local variation on a typical salt cod 'cream'.
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:28 AM

Pomfret (sorry, no idea of the species). Again from my fishmonger in Edinburgh. Highly prized in SE-Asia.
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Deep fried and used and sauced with Thai 'Three flavour sauce'.
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:30 AM

What a beautiful thread! Thanks!!
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:32 AM

A rainbow trout. Not native to Scotland, but used to stock lochs etc for recreational fishing. Also the first fish I caught on a fly.
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Used to make "Blue Trout".
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:39 AM

From the mercato centrale in Florence, earlier this year.

Anchovies
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Soup fish
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 08:51 AM

Man this thread is making me perspire! I might have to dig up some of my own porn, er, I mean fish and seafood photos!
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 02:06 PM

Beautiful pictures, they might even be able to make my brother and his wife stop saying "we don't like fish" everytime I tell them of a new fish recipe I've found.
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Posted 02 July 2005 - 04:14 PM

Adam, I like fish!

Great photographs and great thread.
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#14 Adam Balic

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Posted 03 July 2005 - 03:07 AM

From Samlucar (Andalucia).

Live fiddler crab with samphire.
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Fiddler crab claws as a tapa
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Clams in a burnt onion sauce
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Hake roe salad
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Buying fish at the wonderful Sanlucar market
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Which included

Weever fish
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Red mullet, cuttlefish and baby sole
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Posted 03 July 2005 - 04:01 AM

'food from the sea' is my favourite! i eat meat once or twice a week. love my seafood too much.
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steamed and eaten with a simple butter parsley garlic sauce
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Posted 03 July 2005 - 07:52 AM

A recent scallop ceviche made from a local diver harvest. Full report here.

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Posted 03 July 2005 - 11:36 PM

Adam,
What an engaging thread! I don't know if you are book dork like I am; if you are you might consider the following books by Alan Davidson. (This link is to his obituary in The Guardian. It is the most thorough link I found on him).

Mediterranean Seafood (1972)

Seafood of South East Asia (1979)

North Atlantic Seafood (1979)

Saveur magazine's website says of Mediterranean Seafood: "Complete handbook to Mediterranean sea life, with black-and-white drawings, detailed definitions, translations, and recipes. Excellent for identifying the lesser-known creatures." His works are considered unimpeachably authoritative. Davidson was an Oxford graduate and was serving as a British diplomat when he wrote Mediterranean Seafood. Elizabeth David, goddess of English food writing and M.F.K. Fisher's spiritual twin, gave Davidson his publishing break by recommending his manuscript to Penguin.

Davidson wrote many other books, including the previously out-of-print Fish and Fish Dishes of Laos, and was the editor of The Oxford Companion to Food, of which Amazon.com says: "Davidson himself...contributes approximately 80 percent of the 2,650 entries, thereby guaranteeing high levels of erudition, readability, and deadpan feline wit."

You could buy his books through www.abebooks.com (direct link to his books with the word "seafood" in the title), which is a site that is linked to the inventories of thousands of used-book stores.
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Posted 04 July 2005 - 12:56 AM

Adam,
What an engaging thread!  I don't know if you are book dork like I am; if you are you might consider the following books by Alan Davidson. (This link is to his obituary in The Guardian.  It is the most thorough link I found on him).

Mediterranean Seafood (1972)

Seafood of South East Asia (1979)

North Atlantic Seafood (1979)

Saveur magazine's website says of Mediterranean Seafood:  "Complete handbook to Mediterranean sea life, with black-and-white drawings, detailed definitions, translations, and recipes. Excellent for identifying the lesser-known creatures."  His works are considered unimpeachably authoritative.  Davidson was an Oxford graduate and was serving as a British diplomat when he wrote Mediterranean SeafoodElizabeth David, goddess of English food writing and M.F.K. Fisher's spiritual twin, gave Davidson his publishing break by recommending his manuscript to Penguin.

Davidson wrote many other books, including the previously out-of-print Fish and Fish Dishes of Laos, and was the editor of The Oxford Companion to Food, of which Amazon.com says:  "Davidson himself...contributes approximately 80 percent of the 2,650 entries, thereby guaranteeing high levels of erudition, readability, and deadpan feline wit."

You could buy his books through www.abebooks.com (direct link to his books with the word "seafood" in the title), which is a site that is linked to the inventories of thousands of used-book stores.

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Thanks for the suggstion. I have Davidson's Mediterranean Seafood and North Atlantic Seafood. Both are completely invaluble. Although, my copies are old, so maybe I need to update to the new editions. SE-Asia seafood I haven't got, but should, just for interest and the identification of the odd SE-Asian fish that makes it to Scotland.

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Posted 04 July 2005 - 01:14 AM

From the Market in Jerez (Andalucia)

The market

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Baby Dover Sole and Mullet roe. The latter is what gets salted to and dried to produce 'Bottarga/Botarga' in Spain and Italy
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Chub mackerel
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Various crustacean (and some snails), including spider crab in the top right and scampi in the bottom left.
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Porbeagle shark

Intact (shark on the left) at the Sanlucar market
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Topped and tailed
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Skinned and ready to section into slices
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Posted 04 July 2005 - 04:30 AM

This is such a wonderful thread. Thanks.
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Posted 04 July 2005 - 10:16 AM

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Although, I have posted this before, I now have some extra images and information to add. Yesterday I attended the Scottish Game Fair at Scone Palace. Amoughst, numerous attractions was a demonstration on the traditional production of Arboath Smokies.

The fish are lightly salted, then dried and hung in pairs on poles
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These are then hung over barrels which are set into the ground, the fish are then covered with wet hessian and smoked for approximately 40 minutes, depending on the wind.
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We ate then hot from the smoker and in this form they are one of the UK's best food products, well deserving of its geographic protection.

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Posted 04 July 2005 - 12:40 PM

Adam, you refer to wet hessian. What is that?

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Posted 04 July 2005 - 01:02 PM

what a great, interesting thread. your pictures and descriptions are wonderful. i would love to wander through that market!
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Posted 04 July 2005 - 03:11 PM

From Samlucar (Andalucia).



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Mmm! Can you post this recipe!!!

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:52 AM

Adam, you refer to wet hessian. What is that?

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Pan - hessian is cloth made from jute, very common as for producing sacking material etc. Also refered to as burlap.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:53 AM

From Samlucar (Andalucia).



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Mmm! Can you post this recipe!!!

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I will see. I have a cookbook produced by some of the local ladies of Sanlucar, that may have a recipe.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 01:04 AM

A recent scallop ceviche made from a local diver harvest. Full report here.

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Finally got to read your thread. Excellent! I really love scallops and we get very good scallops in Scotland. Unfortunately, not everybody in the household likes them so I don't get to eat them often. I very much like the roe, but it does cook more quickly then the muscle.

I take it that the scallops are always removed from the shell for sale in the USA?

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 02:00 AM

a kilo of big tentacles and this is how they meet their fate, [the rest].
oh yes, scallops of course. love them fresh with coral intact even though i take a long time to gut them.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 04:49 AM

I take it that the scallops are always removed from the shell for sale in the USA?


They are indeed. Scallops are harvest primarily by dragging a dredge from the stern of a boat, a bit invasive but effective. They are picked out of the dredge and shucked on-board using a knife like this which neatly follows the contours of the large scallops common to the area.

It is required to reach port with ONLY the abductor muscle and no other part of the scallop animal. Clouds of seagulls follow scallopers into port as deckhands cast the roe and other debris overboard. If the harvest is prodigious, boats will idle in the harbour and finish shucking their scallop haul.
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Posted 05 July 2005 - 04:54 AM

So can you buy diver caught scallops like these?
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