I'm interested in making a press mold for fondant or modeling chocolate.
I seem to remember seeing a book once in which the author created a custom mold from a piece of costume jewelry. As I recall, she said something about using silicone or food-safe clay to make such a mold, but gave no further explanation (and even if there were any, I can't remember what the book was, anyway).
Has anyone ever done this, for cake decorating, or pehaps candymaking? Do you know of any materials that can be used for this? I've searched everywhere I can think of, and I can't seem to find anything. I've thought about using regular, hardware-store silicone out of the tube, but I'm not sure if that would work, or if it's food-safe. I've wondered the same things about "non-toxic" clays I find in craft stores, like Crayola's Model Magic. (I've ruled out polymer clays like Fimo, because I'm pretty sure they aren't food-safe.)
Any suggestions or advice?
Making custom molds for fondant, etc.
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Jessica Parsons
, Jun 24 2005 05:16 PM
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chiantiglace
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 05:50 PM
why dont you check this out...
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And yes, there are many many ways to make molds. You name what shape or Idea more specific and theres plenty of suggestions we can give you and direction. Food safe sillicone is fun to play with but can get pricey if you dont know what your doin+ can really screw up.
Check arts and craft stores too. They have a lot of cool things you can use your imagination to use.
Oh, by the way, Welcome to Egullet soceity.
DEMO: Pastillage
And yes, there are many many ways to make molds. You name what shape or Idea more specific and theres plenty of suggestions we can give you and direction. Food safe sillicone is fun to play with but can get pricey if you dont know what your doin+ can really screw up.
Check arts and craft stores too. They have a lot of cool things you can use your imagination to use.
Oh, by the way, Welcome to Egullet soceity.
Edited by chiantiglace, 24 June 2005 - 05:54 PM.
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 08:44 PM
Albert Uster Imports sells edible silicones for mold making and can be hard or soft. Alternatively - check Beryls:
http://beryls.safesh.../cat130.htm?463
They have a variety of products for what you are trying to do.
http://beryls.safesh.../cat130.htm?463
They have a variety of products for what you are trying to do.
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Jessica Parsons
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 09:41 PM
Perfect! Thank you!
I should have known you'd know what to use! (While I haven't posted much, I've read a LOT.)
I should have known you'd know what to use! (While I haven't posted much, I've read a LOT.)
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 05:46 AM
O.k. I need help. We had a great thread here about making molds with the author of a mold making book. The fellow who taught the guys over at the FPS. His name eludes me right now so I can't do a site search.
Surely someone else here recalls that thread. Help me out and post a link to it for Jessica, please. Also a link to his book would be helpful.
Thanks.......
Surely someone else here recalls that thread. Help me out and post a link to it for Jessica, please. Also a link to his book would be helpful.
Thanks.......
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 06:05 AM
I believe that would be this thread here.
Be sure to check out Chef Rubber for lots of info and products for making your own molds.
Be sure to check out Chef Rubber for lots of info and products for making your own molds.
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Jessica Parsons
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 12:28 PM
I am constantly amazed by what a wonderful resource this forum is!
I did find the Michael Joy book, through chefette's link, which looks very interesting, but out of my price range for something I'm probably only going to do once or twice (but who knows?...).
The previous thread linked by nightscotsman was great! Hearing about this topic from Michael Joy himself was a treat, and the discussion of the artistic merits of using molds for competition was very, very interesting, although totally unrelated to my purposes (but that's me on the internet, come looking for one thing, find myself hours later with so much more...
).
Once I knew what to search for, I found a few other links that might be useful, if anyone else is interested:
Culinart.com: Company link for the Silicone Plastique product listed in chefette's link. Includes instructions.
Alley Goop: Another clay-type silicone molding material. Shown for craft use but says it's FDA approved.
The items I'm creating/copying are not especially delicate or detailed, so I may be able to use some molding materials other than silicone, especially since I'll be pressing items in, as opposed to pouring, and won't be exposing the molds to heat.
One possibility that has just occurred to me is paraffin wax from the grocery store for about $2.50 a pound, and clearly labeled as FDA approved. (Besides, it's used for canning, so it has to be safe.)
I'm also considering some modeling clays from the craft store. Can anyone confirm this for me--if something is labeled "non-toxic," is it safe to use with food?
As I try stuff out, I'll post my results.
I did find the Michael Joy book, through chefette's link, which looks very interesting, but out of my price range for something I'm probably only going to do once or twice (but who knows?...).
The previous thread linked by nightscotsman was great! Hearing about this topic from Michael Joy himself was a treat, and the discussion of the artistic merits of using molds for competition was very, very interesting, although totally unrelated to my purposes (but that's me on the internet, come looking for one thing, find myself hours later with so much more...
).Once I knew what to search for, I found a few other links that might be useful, if anyone else is interested:
Culinart.com: Company link for the Silicone Plastique product listed in chefette's link. Includes instructions.
Alley Goop: Another clay-type silicone molding material. Shown for craft use but says it's FDA approved.
The items I'm creating/copying are not especially delicate or detailed, so I may be able to use some molding materials other than silicone, especially since I'll be pressing items in, as opposed to pouring, and won't be exposing the molds to heat.
One possibility that has just occurred to me is paraffin wax from the grocery store for about $2.50 a pound, and clearly labeled as FDA approved. (Besides, it's used for canning, so it has to be safe.)
I'm also considering some modeling clays from the craft store. Can anyone confirm this for me--if something is labeled "non-toxic," is it safe to use with food?
As I try stuff out, I'll post my results.
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 03:40 PM
On the Food Network site if you go to Chocolate with Jacques Torres there is the directions for making a gelatin mold. It is for a Champagne bottle but it could be used to mold almost anything, especially if it doesn't need fine detail. The episode is called Hold Everything and there is a link to the directions called Gelatin molded Champagne bottle.
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 03:45 PM
Jessica
Depending on what you are trying to make (how intricate, with crevices etc), and how often you will re-use the mold, you have several options, most of which are mentioned above.
Years ago I had to do quicky seashell cake, and didn't even have time to order silicone or go to the craft store for stuff. (this was before the shell molds commonly available today, and even before Rosemary Watson made her beautiful shell molds). I just used extra gumpaste: I pressed the beautiful real shells I had into a pillow of gumpaste, carefully pulled off (I dusted the shells well) and let dry overnite. Next day I used both gumpaste and fondant to quickly press into the mold and release, then let dry enough to dust with colors, and away I went! It was fast, and because the shells were only seen from the front and not the back (as they were propped against the cake, with royal icing coral pieces), it was very simple, and the effect the same as if I had used/made more expensive silicone molds.
Interestingly, I thought they would be used one or two times, but can you believe it... I still have these (now along with some of Rosemary's molds) and have used them probably 25 or more times over the last 10 years!
Depending on what you are trying to make (how intricate, with crevices etc), and how often you will re-use the mold, you have several options, most of which are mentioned above.
Years ago I had to do quicky seashell cake, and didn't even have time to order silicone or go to the craft store for stuff. (this was before the shell molds commonly available today, and even before Rosemary Watson made her beautiful shell molds). I just used extra gumpaste: I pressed the beautiful real shells I had into a pillow of gumpaste, carefully pulled off (I dusted the shells well) and let dry overnite. Next day I used both gumpaste and fondant to quickly press into the mold and release, then let dry enough to dust with colors, and away I went! It was fast, and because the shells were only seen from the front and not the back (as they were propped against the cake, with royal icing coral pieces), it was very simple, and the effect the same as if I had used/made more expensive silicone molds.
Interestingly, I thought they would be used one or two times, but can you believe it... I still have these (now along with some of Rosemary's molds) and have used them probably 25 or more times over the last 10 years!
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 10:42 PM
I have made my own mold basically copying my cameo pendant and using it as decoration on a birthday cake for someone's mom. I get my silicone mold making material from here and basically follow their instructions. Here's the link Silicone Mold making material It shows a step by step here as well. I've had success with this product and my mold is re-usable.
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Jessica Parsons
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Posted 26 June 2005 - 09:12 AM
Gelatin! Now there's an idea I never would have considered! Here is the link for anyone interested. Don't think it'll work for press molds, though....
As for gumpaste, I had been wondering if that would work! I think I'll try a few of these ideas today (and post results, of course). If they don't work out, I think I'll order the silicone.
Thanks, everyone, for your input and advice!
As for gumpaste, I had been wondering if that would work! I think I'll try a few of these ideas today (and post results, of course). If they don't work out, I think I'll order the silicone.
Thanks, everyone, for your input and advice!
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 06:49 AM
That's the same stuff I use! :)
I have made my own mold basically copying my cameo pendant and using it as decoration on a birthday cake for someone's mom. I get my silicone mold making material from here and basically follow their instructions. Here's the link Silicone Mold making material It shows a step by step here as well. I've had success with this product and my mold is re-usable.
