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#1 Liza

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Posted 17 May 2002 - 07:24 PM

We've tried blue and white and traditionally it is cooked in water with pork and peppers, etc. It's supposed to plump or open up and become soft. We had it going for a good five hours and it was still like eating gravel, and extra crunchy gravel at that.
Does it need to be soaked? Did we get an unlucky batch of posole? Should we develop a taste for gravel?

#2 Jason Perlow

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Posted 18 May 2002 - 07:46 AM

I'm pretty sure it has to be soaked overnight just like garbanzos.
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#3 Jinmyo

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Posted 18 May 2002 - 07:57 AM

Liza, was this frozen, tinned, dried?
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#4 Priscilla

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Posted 18 May 2002 - 10:18 AM

Liza, wow hardcore, starting with dried hominy, no pun intended as I despise and decry wordplay.  The recipe for posole the soup I was taught by a Mexican lady, such an excellent cook, calls for tinned, one (big old) can each of the whole non-degerminated and the degerminated, or whatever.  Yep, Juanita's Brand, you know what I mean?

If you are cooking a dried pulse or grain that seemingly will never tenderize, worldwithoutendamen, I attribute it to age of the ingredient, and I don't know if it's mitigatable.  I mean, any overnight soaking question has gotta be just about moot, doesn't it, after 5 hours' cookage, for God's sake.  IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT!!!

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#5 Liza

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Posted 19 May 2002 - 10:19 AM

Jinmyo, it was dried. Like big ears of corn, it was.
Priscilla, thank you. I'm thinking of tossing the rest of it to alleviate any remaining guilt feelings.

#6 Jinmyo

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Posted 19 May 2002 - 11:11 AM

Oh, then you definitely need to soak it overnight. Same thing happened to me with beans many years ago. Cooking for a long time is not the same thing as soaking and then cooking.
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#7 sladeums

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Posted 20 May 2002 - 08:19 AM

If it is totally in it's raw state it should be slaked and hulled before cooking...soaking may work, I haven't tried it, though.

check this link for Diana Kennedy's instructions on preparing dried hominy (it's in the instructions for the menudo recipe at the top of the page)

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note that removing the pedicel is optional, but if you don't remove it the majority of the kernels probably won't "flower".
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#8 Rosie

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Posted 20 May 2002 - 09:28 AM

Soak it overnight. Also, there is a very good recipe for a pork stew on the back of the package (Goya).
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#9 jordan

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Posted 20 May 2002 - 03:16 PM

Do you live at high altitude?

#10 B Edulis

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Posted 20 May 2002 - 03:31 PM

Liza, I had the same experience with posole -- soaked overnight, three hours of cooking and still hard like rock. I've have the rest of it in my cupboard for a couple of years  -- I'm throwin' it out now.

It's canned posole for me.

#11 JSD

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Posted 21 May 2002 - 03:39 PM

Have you thought about using a pressure cooker?  I hate having to think ahead, and the pressure cooker really helps out when I don't.





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