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#1 melkor

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 11:40 AM

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Last week Thomas Keller opened his new bakery in Yountville. The bakery is located in the building next door to Bouchon, it has no sign saying what is inside; people are simply drawn in by the smell.

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(sticky bun, croissant, apricot spice scone, pain au chocolat, a double latte - $10.70)

I have been to the Bouchon Bakery three times now in the past three days, twice Friday and once Saturday. Each time I have ordered a double latte and some assortment of pastries and bread. Everything is outstanding, I may even need to reconsider my hatred of pod-based espresso machines as their espresso machine uses illy pods and makes some of the best lattes I've had anywhere and every one is equally incredable.

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(lemon tart - $4.25)

This lemon tart is worth driving several hours for; infact I suspect Yountville will now be on the way to all sorts of places regardless of what a map may say. All the bread at the French Laundry and Bouchon will be baked at the Bouchon Bakery; other local restaurants I suspect will purchase bread from them as well.

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 11:52 AM

Thanks for doing this legwork so selflessly on our behalf.

Do they make any actual bread there? If so, have you tried it? If so, is it good? If so, why? Also, do you like me?
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#3 melkor

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 12:00 PM

Do they make any actual bread there? If so, have you tried it? If so, is it good? If so, why? Also, do you like me?

They do make bread there, the bread looks amazing but I have not tried it as I've got half a dozen loaves of bread around the kitchen from my efforts to perfect an open crumb sourdough bread. But I suspect I'll end up back there today anyway, so I'll try their bread. Or I suppose I could just go to lunch at Bouchon as they will be serving the bread there...

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 08:50 PM

Okay, I'll be heading there before work some day this week! That lemon tart DOES look fabulous but it is going to be hard for me to find a croissant that surpasses those I get at Nugget in Vallejo.

Yep, it shocked me -- I've been eating at hoity-toity bakeries in Paris, London, and Los Angeles (I'm thinking La Brea here), and Nugget's croissants are truly THE most flaky and buttery I've ever experienced.

BTW, Melkor, I can't wait to meet you! Do you do sushi? There is an amazing Temaki place I frequent (two times a week, at least!) in Fairfield. Again, shocking... I've eaten at Matsuhitsa's and still find this small hole-in-the-wall comparable to those I've been to in SF, London, and L.A...

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 10:19 PM

So I never managed to make it to the bakery when I was running around today. Instead we went to dinner at Bouchon, I'll post about that tomorrow. The bread kicks ass, at Bouchon they serve sections of an ear of wheat baguette when you are seated. The baguette is perfectly crisp on the outside and has a very light and open crumb with a chewy texture. I'll most likely be back at the bakery sometime this week and I'll try some of their other breads.


Where in Vallejo is Nugget? I'm not big on sushi, but Ms Melkor is - so that could work.

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 10:34 PM

Do you know what kind of oven this place is using (stone/brick, steel; gas, coal, wood, electric)? Are the breads leavened with commercial yeast or with a starter?
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#7 melkor

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 07:08 AM

Do you know what kind of oven this place is using (stone/brick, steel; gas, coal, wood, electric)? Are the breads leavened with commercial yeast or with a starter?

Guess I've got a reason to go back today. I'll also grab a couple of croissants and try and find Nugget in Vallejo to compare them.

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 07:09 AM

Interior photos!
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Posted 14 July 2003 - 07:19 AM

Interior photos!

French Laundry finally has a good web site.. On the bouchon page they have a link to the designer's site with some pictures. Here.
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#10 melkor

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 07:34 AM

Those photos are the restaurant Bouchon, they have opened a bakery next door called Bouchon Bakery. I'll see if I can get some interior photos without being arrested, they only have counter service and the room is all of 500 square feet.

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 07:42 AM

Guess I've got a reason to go back today.  I'll also grab a couple of croissants and try and find Nugget in Vallejo to compare them.

Ooops! It is the Nugget in VACAVILLE! I keep forgetting which "V" city is to the east of me vs. which one is to the west of me...

Mea culpa.

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 11:46 AM

Interior photos!

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I got there as they were still setting up the counter, the display case is full later in the day.

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The bottom three ovens are electric and they are used for baking bread, the top oven is gas and is where all the pastries made. They are 14' deep, with a slate floor.

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I bought a ciabatta, but since this is a French bakery we’ll call it a rustiq. They use wild yeast for most of their breads.

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This is an especially good ciabatta, a nice thick crust with a perfect balance between crunchy and chewy. The crumb is very soft, with a faint hint of olive oil, this is damn good bread. If the bread from my oven were half as good I’d be excited.

Vacaville is a hike from here, I'll check out their croissants next time I'm out there. I guess my lunch today will have to be a sandwich of some kind of the croissant I got from Bouchon.

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 11:55 AM

Very compelling ciabatta, from a technical visual perspective.
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#14 Carolyn Tillie

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 05:42 PM

I got an unexpected boon of a day off on Tuesday -- I'm going to make the Great Croissant Excursion... Starting in Vacaville, then through Napa, picking up Croissants from several known bakeries there, and on to Yountville for Bouchon's Croissant.

Should I post my results here or start a separate thread?

And, with the addition of a new digital camera, I'll have photos too!!!!!

#15 melkor

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 05:46 PM

I got an unexpected boon of a day off on Tuesday -- I'm going to make the Great Croissant Excursion... Starting in Vacaville, then through Napa, picking up Croissants from several known bakeries there, and on to Yountville for Bouchon's Croissant.

Should I post my results here or start a separate thread?

Excellent idea! But you should start a new thread as more people are likely to see it that way.

If your going to be running around Napa tomorrow you should come to the farmers market, I usualy go around 7:30 or 8am. PM me if you'll be there.

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Posted 16 July 2003 - 09:52 PM

the bread consultant is mark furstenburg of washington dc's bread line. they have a separate pastry consultant as well. old thomas doesn't spare the brainpower.

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Posted 19 July 2003 - 06:45 PM

Thanks for your post, Melkor. You inspired me to trek to Yountville today, and it was well worth the drive. The bakery was fantastic, needless to say. I bought quite a few pastries and a couple of loaves of bread...all wonderful. Anyone who lives within a hundred mile radius should trek, trek, trek.
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Posted 19 July 2003 - 10:45 PM

Thanks for your post, Melkor.  You inspired me to trek to Yountville today, and it was well worth the drive.  The bakery was fantastic, needless to say.  I bought quite a few pastries and a couple of loaves of bread...all wonderful. Anyone who lives within a hundred mile radius should trek, trek, trek.

Glad you enjoyed it, where else did you stop while you were in the area?

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Posted 20 July 2003 - 10:26 AM

The people who were with me had never been to the Napa area before, so we stopped in Napa, St. Helena, Calistoga, etc. and spent entirely too much money. We didn't really eat anywhere else, as our baked goods were completely filling. Very fun and very warm.
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Posted 10 September 2003 - 11:59 PM

The bottom three ovens are electric and they are used for baking bread, the top oven is gas and is where all the pastries made.  They are 14' deep, with a slate floor.

I recently had the chance to trail a bread baker shift here and would like to clarify a few things and add my 2 cents....

The bottom three ovens shown are actually the gas ones where the bread is baked. The loaves get steamed initially, although the steam is vented out in the final few minutes to further develop the crust.
The top oven is electric but I did not see it used while I was there due to bad calibration.
Pastries are baked inside the production area out of sight in smaller electric ovens.

Overall I was very impressed with the precision and attention to detail of the bakery; doughs mixed at exact temperatures and never overproofed, etc. They recently boosted production for their wholesale operation and in my opinion the QC dropoff was almost negligible. Still some of the best bread I've ever had.

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Posted 11 September 2003 - 04:12 AM

I only had a croissant..........and dare I say.....shrug. The best part was I asked for butter and they had it and it was good butter. :blink:
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#22 melkor

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 09:18 AM

I've been visiting the Bouchon Bakery fairly regularly for the last seven months - a few things have changed. They have started offering sandwiches for lunch. Their croissants have improved - they are even richer now than they were when they first opened. They seem to be producing twice as many different things now, the nutterbutter sandwich being my current favorite :smile:

All in all, if you haven't been there yet, you’re missing out.

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 07:18 PM

Melkor, are you talking about the already-made sandwiches? Everytime I get my hair done in Yountville (Moonlighting - great place!), I stop in to get a "ham and cheese on a baguette" sandwich with the little pickles and onions on the side. I think they've been offering these since my initial visit there in September. The cheese is so subtle that at first I thought they'd buttered the bread and left the cheese off.

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Posted 18 February 2004 - 07:31 PM

Yep, the pre-made sandwiches weren't available the first week or two when I posted the photos earlier in this thread - or at least I didn't stop in when they had any.

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Posted 20 February 2004 - 04:08 AM

melkor: thank you for photos, esp interiors of the bread....i can almost smell them!

but please: a sandwich on a croissant!? promise me you won't do this, at least until we can talk this thing through. there are so many good breads to make sandwiches with......don't do this thing on a buttery, tender croissant.

and carolyn: good girl! i love it: not afraid to mention nugget in vacaville with the finest bakeries in paris, london, nyc, sf, napa etc. I often go to the nugget in davis for their israeli feta cheese. really excellent!
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Posted 20 February 2004 - 04:30 AM

Do they make any actual bread there? If so, have you tried it? If so, is it good? If so, why? Also, do you like me?

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Posted 20 February 2004 - 05:24 PM

Do they make any actual bread there? If so, have you tried it? If so, is it good? If so, why? Also, do you like me?

They do make bread there, the bread looks amazing but I have not tried it as I've got half a dozen loaves of bread around the kitchen from my efforts to perfect an open crumb sourdough bread. But I suspect I'll end up back there today anyway, so I'll try their bread. Or I suppose I could just go to lunch at Bouchon as they will be serving the bread there...

Melkor never answer this question. I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I'd rather not say, because I like both Melkor and Fat Guy.

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Posted 20 February 2004 - 05:49 PM

Do they make any actual bread there? If so, have you tried it? If so, is it good? If so, why? Also, do you like me?

They do make bread there, the bread looks amazing but I have not tried it as I've got half a dozen loaves of bread around the kitchen from my efforts to perfect an open crumb sourdough bread. But I suspect I'll end up back there today anyway, so I'll try their bread. Or I suppose I could just go to lunch at Bouchon as they will be serving the bread there...

Melkor never answer this question. I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I'd rather not say, because I like both Melkor and Fat Guy.

The question was asked more than six months ago - the statute of limitations is up on it, isn’t it?

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Posted 23 February 2004 - 08:01 PM

On Sat before the potluck, we went to Bouchon Bakery to get the peanut butter chocolate mousse cake for the party. However, we were lured into buying all sorts of unnecessary goods by displays of all the pastries.

We had for breakfast (in no particular order):

Pate de fruits: they had raspberry, cassis and something, and mango and apricot. They were molded in a round lozenge shape. The raspberry had the lush texture of the ones I had at Chuao Chocolatier in Oceanside, last year. cassis as usual was my fave.

chocolate Bouchon: Basically this is a 2 inch long, cylindrical Valhrona chocolate cake with little Valhrona chocolate chips in it. I ate it, and it tasted just like a brownie. A tasty, dark, chewy brownie with little chips in it. If you like your brownies kinda crusty, this is it.

Financier (apricot almond): very cute and tasty financier, with apricot a nice complement to the almonds in the cake and sliced on top. They were little oval cakes as opposed to the rectangular, gold brick shaped cake of tradition. Tiny, about 2 inches or so long. I like fruit financiers actually. Seems less boring than just almond cake.

Chocolate Dutch (?) doughnut: this was Mark's doing, not me. It was a good chocolate doughnut that didn't taste stale the next day.

Riesling Pear Mascarpone cheese tart (I think that's the name): Mascarpone was delicate filling, nice with the pears. Would have been my favorite were it not for the sticky jam that cemented the bottom of the pastry to the cardboard round it sat on. I've never seen anyone do this. Is this normal around here? Gah!

Chocolate caramel tart: They use Valhrona chocolate here and I have to say I usually like it better than El Rey or Scharfenberger, because it doesn't taste as bitter and weird to me. I just can't get myself to like Citizen Cake's chocolate stuff, prob for that reason, or maybe because I'm a bad person. That said, I thought this tart was a little too sweet, but nothing a good cappucino couldn't solve. This tart would have been great if we had not already stuffed ourselves with other stuff. Tart was stuck on carboard round with jam, grr.

Reeses timbale: This was basically a scaled down version of the peanut butter mousse cake we brought to the potluck except the ratio of chocolate to peanut butter here was higher, with a little disk of I think shortbread on bottom. This was very cute,delicious, with smooth light mousse that was eaten in a flash. shortbread disk was stuck to cardboard with jam, gah that is so annoying and it makes the crust go limp faster.

"American style" eclairs: This means that the eclair was split in half and filled with cream, like a sort of cream sandwich, as opposed to french style where you pipe the filling in and then glaze the top with the appropriate flavor glaze. We had the chocolate and chantilly cream versions, and both were nice, with a layer of what appeared to be chcolate or vanilla pastry cream and the whipped cream piped on top of that, then the top half of the eclair on top of that. chantilly cream was my favorite. Side note: Pascal's Epicerie in Newport Beach, CA does a very nice (french) eclair IMHO, but they only have coffee and chocolate. Both are delicious.

I had a caramel macaron. I hate to say this, but I thought the macarons here were too big. I think the size compromised the texture a little, because instead of a tender, moist, ethereally light cookie sandwich, I got a sort of heavy and pasty one. When I buy macarons, I usually buy one or two of every flavor, but I wasn't really tempted to do that here. Anyhow they only had a couple of flavors. They said caramel was the most popular.

Rounded out with a latte, all this junk made a very sweet breakfast. I figured I would go back and grab some croissants but never made it that far. I'll have to eat here a couple more times, it's really a nice place.

You can tell rich people live here because the trash cans had wooden facades to make them look nice and less like trash cans (I'm guessing). No indoors eating though, only outdoor seats with umbrellas.

Maybe the next time I'll do the multi day croissant tour of Napa/SF. But why limit to croissants?

Pics forthcoming

Edited by jschyun, 23 February 2004 - 08:02 PM.

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Posted 23 February 2004 - 08:30 PM

Like you, I'm a sucker for every sampler platter, combo plate and mixed dozen. Nice work!

BTW, I think that jam thing is not for style, but just a baker's trick for keeping things from slipping off of their base while being iced, moved, etc. Making things soggy can't be worth it, though.

Anxiously awaiting pix.

Edited by FoodZealot, 23 February 2004 - 08:31 PM.