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#1 DaveFaris

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 09:11 AM

Two recent threads discussing english mustard and homemade sushi reminded me about wasabi, which I just learned that unless you live in Japan, and are very rich, what we've been told is wasabi paste is actually a bogus mixture containing regular horseradish and chinese mustard and green food coloring. That wasabi is difficult to grow, and supply never meets demand, and so North Americans and Europeans never get the chance to eat the real stuff.

Frankly, I'm a bit crushed. I mean, I always knew that wasabi had the same effect on the back of my nose that chinese mustard had...

Has anyone out there ever had real wasabi, and does the imitation wasabi come close to the real?

#2 Jinmyo

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 09:13 AM

Yes, I have. No, it doesn't.

There's someone growing it on the Pacific coast.

Wait a minute and see if I can find the website.

edit:
Here it is.

They sell the plants and real wasabi paste. Not too expensive.
"One pound 100% Real Wasabi Paste - 12 tubes (43g each) $49.90 + Shipping and Handling"

Edited by Jinmyo, 22 December 2002 - 09:16 AM.

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#3 stefanyb

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 09:27 AM

Has anyone out there ever had real wasabi, and does the imitation wasabi come close to the real?

Yes, you can get the real thing here in NYC. On my one and only trip to Jewel Bako it was one of the "specials" at $12 a blob. :shock:

#4 mamster

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 10:17 AM

They only serve real wasabi at Mashiko, the Seattle sushi place we're always raving about on Pacific Northwest. It's definitely different, although to me it wasn't night-and-day.
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#5 Jinmyo

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 10:21 AM

$12 a blob?

I should stick some tubes in my bag and go to the Big City to make my fortune.
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#6 nightscotsman

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 10:49 AM

Uwajimaya, the Asian supermarket here in Seattle, sells real grated wasabi. If I remember correctly it was more expensive than the faux powdered stuff, but not outrageous.

#7 mikeczyz

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 11:04 AM

I had fresh grated wasabi here in Chicago at TRU. I found it to be really different from paste, as the fresh was more fruity and floral. It's really really cool!
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Posted 22 December 2002 - 01:03 PM

There was an article in Saveur a couple of years ago (sep. 1999?) about a farm in Oregon where they were growing wasabi in a greenhouse. The farm had lots of security, razor wire topped fences, cameras etc., to keep out spies from Japan who were trying to find out how to grow it indoors.


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Posted 22 December 2002 - 01:19 PM

Yeah, I saw fresh whole wasabi root at Uwajimaya here in Seattle. It was 69 bucks a pound....

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#10 DaveFaris

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 01:27 PM

Thanks for the link, Jinmyo. I just ordered half a pound of it, and I'll be giving most of it away as christmas gifts to my sushi loving friends and family.

#11 tommy

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 01:28 PM

There was an article in Saveur a couple of years ago (sep. 1999?) about a farm in Oregon where they were growing wasabi in a greenhouse.  The farm had lots of security, razor wire topped fences, cameras etc.,  to keep out spies from Japan who were trying to find out how to grow it indoors.

i'm guessing that was pacific farms, which jinmyo provided a like for up top here. they are apparently *the* goto source for this stuff. i just might give them a shot! the link again.

#12 DaveFaris

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 01:47 PM

It's interesting that they sell wasabi plants. If I were doing another garden this summer (which, sadly, I'm not, since I am moving into a highrise apartment complex in a few weeks... :sad: ), I'd surely try my hand at growing it. I wonder if it is as invasive as common horseradish is said to be?

#13 =Mark

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 01:57 PM

I'd surely try my hand at growing it. I wonder if it is as invasive as common horseradish is said to be?

At $69 a pound I would think not...
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#14 guajolote

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 03:56 PM

I'd surely try my hand at growing it. I wonder if it is as invasive as common horseradish is said to be?

The article in Savuer said it grows in mountain streams with very cold running water high in minerals, so the garden thing is probably not feasible.


#15 DaveFaris

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 04:17 PM

oi. I guess I'll try and think before I post next time, Mark.

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Posted 22 December 2002 - 08:01 PM

I should stick some tubes in my bag and go to the Big City to make my fortune.


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A. (Jin) Wassabi.

Q. (passerby) Word?

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Q. (passerby) You sellin?

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#17 torakris

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Posted 23 December 2002 - 08:19 AM

Don't worry too much about not eating real wasabi, most Japanese have never eaten the real stuff either. Occasionally it can be found in supermarkets in Japan (usually about $5 to $6 for a large finger) but it doesn't seem to be a really popular product. Most people are happy with the tubed stuff (which contains real wasabi) rather than grating it themselves. The tubes only cost about $1 to $2.
I don't know anyone in Japan who uses the powdered stuff, in fact I think I have only seen it once.
I prefer the freshly grated but don't find it worth my time to search it out.

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