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John's Premium Tonic Syrup


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#1 weinoo

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:45 AM

After reading a little essay in Saveur about this stuff, I'm a bit intrigued.

From the website:

Since 2008 I have served this recipe at Tuck Shop, the restaurant I run here in Phoenix Arizona, with tremendous response.


Has anyone had the pleasure of trying it?


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#2 fledflew

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:51 AM

I'm a fan. It's good stuff. Really good.
I like that it is a syrup and the concentration can be adjusted depending on what you're making. I dilute with San Pellegrino. Decent complexity and depth of flavor. To be fair, I was just a Schweppes guy before this and had only tried a few other craft tonics before trying this stuff. It costs about the same (or maybe less than) the Schweppes that I used to buy in little glass bottles. Considerably cheaper than most of the other competing tonics out there, if you can even find them. Also doesn't hurt that the Tuck Shop/Astor House where John works is about a mile from my place in Phoenix and he's a really nice guy. After all this cheerleading, know that it's still just tonic. But it's really good tonic. It probably won't change your life (but I suppose it's possible). Definitely worth it in my book and has a place at my bar. Just checked out his website and I'd suggest splitting an order with somebody else (or just stocking up for yourself) since shipping is consistent up to 4 bottles.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 01:52 PM

I just picked up a bottle of Bitterman's Commonwealth, which is their tonic syrup at proof.
I tried a barspoonful last night with Tanqueray and club soda: I was hoping it would be a little less sweet, but I was too tired to really focus on the finer points of taste, will have to experiment more tonight . . . .

It'd be interesting to have someone with access to John's do a comparison between these syrups and the high-end bottled brands like Q and Fever Tree. Anyone willing, in the name of science?
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#4 Chris Hennes

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 06:27 PM

Anyone willing, in the name of science?

But of course. Alas, he says his shipping is going to be delayed because of all the extra traffic he's getting right now, so it will be a little while.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:18 AM

My order of John's Tonic syrup arrived in yesterday's mail.
I was so eager to try it, I love a good gin & tonic.
Disappointed, to say the least. Just not my idea of what tonic should taste like.
I'll stick with Schweppes.

#6 weinoo

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 06:53 AM

My order of John's Tonic syrup arrived in yesterday's mail.
I was so eager to try it, I love a good gin & tonic.
Disappointed, to say the least. Just not my idea of what tonic should taste like.
I'll stick with Schweppes.

What gin are you using? What proportions of gin, tonic syrup and club soda did you use?

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#7 slkinsey

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:51 AM

lindag, what was it that you didn't like about it?
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#8 lindag

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 06:16 AM

To begin with, I love the taste of the regular Schweppes-like tonic water. I'll even drink it straight, I love the 'bite' that it has.
That's probably why I don't care for John's. It has an off-taste for me; something medicine-like.
I mixed my drink as the container directed, going a little heavy on the Tanqueray.

#9 weinoo

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 06:44 AM

To begin with, I love the taste of the regular Schweppes-like tonic water. I'll even drink it straight, I love the 'bite' that it has.
That's probably why I don't care for John's. It has an off-taste for me; something medicine-like.
I mixed my drink as the container directed, going a little heavy on the Tanqueray.

Of course something medicine-like is what real tonic is made from!

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#10 Chris Hennes

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 01:28 PM

I got mine in the mail today: it's too early for a G&T, but I love tonic water straight so went ahead and mixed up a glass. Unfortunately, this is not tonic water.

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The taste itself is fine: as a beverage in its own right it's not bad. It has an interesting molasses-like smell with floral notes on the palate. Unfortunately, it is far too sweet, and not nearly bitter enough, to be considered tonic water, in my opinion. Although the ingredient list and color seem to indicate a fair amount of cinchona bark (and thus quinine), either there is just not enough in there, or there is simply too much agave syrup. I am a big fan of Fever Tree tonic (my favorite) but also really enjoy Q. This is not even comparable, it's too far removed from the taste of a standard tonic water. Maybe it works with gin to make a drink you can call a Gin & John's, but you're not going to get yourself a Gin & Tonic with it.

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#11 Chris Hennes

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:55 PM

Has anyone else noticed their bottles being underfilled? I noticed that I fell short of the amount needed for a drink on my first bottle, so I checked the other three, and they all were only filled with three ounces of liquid, not four.

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#12 lindag

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:15 PM

I did not notice that with my shipment.
Since I don't really like this stuff and will never use it, I'd be happy to send my 3.75 bottles to someone for the cost of shipping.
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#13 lindag

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:20 PM

I got my oreder of the Fever Tree Tonic today and tried it this evening...while I like it very much, to my taste I can't discern any difference from Schweppes, but that's just my taste. I won't re-order because it tastes the same to me. Your taste may vary.