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Please help my chocolate fondant!

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#1 TurtleMeng

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 02:53 PM

I had never made fondant. Then I made 2 batches....

They both tasted great, but the cracking, man.

I have looked thru internet over and over. I own the Rose Cake Bible and the second one is from her recipe. I will list the ingredients below

1 T gelatin
1/3 c water
2/3 c corn syrup
1 T glycerine
1/4 c shortening
1 t vanilla
1 lb 9 oz powdered sugar
7 oz cocoa

I will not list the method since if you are helping me you would know...I think the problem with this recipe is too much cocoa. 7 oz was an enormous amount (more than 2 cups). So the fondant would try to crack no matter how much I kneaded and tried to rub in extra shortening/glycerine.

The first recipe I made was a simple white fondant with 2 oz melted chocolate mixed in. Even this did not crack as badly as Rose's recipe. Everyone sings praise of her recipe but I have found many recipes in her book to have a problem.

Can anyone help?
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#2 TurtleMeng

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:38 PM

No reply? Am I the only one trying to make fondant?......
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#3 minas6907

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:00 PM

No, many of us make fondant. Out of curiosity, what is the process for the first recipe you posted? I dont think its safe to say that if we could help we would know the process, because theres a few ingredients that seem sort extra. I've never made fondant with gelatine, so I am sort of suspect of the recipe. Do you have to agitate it? Knowing the process is helpful.

Also, from your own comments, I would personally forget the first recipe if it doesnt produce anything worth keeping. Stick on tweaking the second one that had less cracking (can we see that recipe?) Do you have any pictures we could take a look at? How is it cracking? Are you depositing it in starch/silicone molds?

Its unfortunate, but you'd be surprised at how many flawed recipes are printed in reputable books.

#4 minas6907

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:17 PM

My apologies, I had in mind that you were making the fondant for candies, but I'm realizing now that its probably for a cake. Anywho, I'd still like to see a pic if you got one.

#5 TurtleMeng

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 12:00 PM

Thanks. I am making cake fondant. It goes like

bloom the gelatin in water, then heat to dissolve, then add glycerine, shortening, corn syrup, vanilla. Pour the mixture into sifted powdered sugar/cocoa and knead until elastic. Let it rest o/n.

Most fondant recipes I have seen for cake have the gelatin. Most main ingredients are the same. I think it might be the ratio....
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#6 cookingofjoy

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:04 PM

I've not tried Rose's. I have used Toba Garret's fondant, with adding 2-5TB cocoa to 8oz fondant. Her recipe also recommends adding shortening, after adding the cocoa, to smooth it out. Was it still crumbly the day after? It might help to try kneading in a little water and letting it sit a bit, too. I think Toba's recipe is helpful in that it's a guide for how much cocoa to add, kind of like with the powdered sugar, add as much as needed.

The chocolate fondant recipe I've used most is from Michelle Foster on cake central. And I've mostly used white chocolate (actual white chocolate, not choc chips or baking chips).
1/2 cup cream
3 Tbsp. unflavored gelatin
1 cup corn syrup
3 Tbsp. butter
3 Tbsp. glycerin
2 tsp. clear vanilla
dash salt
Approximately 3 1/2 lbs. powdered sugar
6 oz chocolate

#7 TurtleMeng

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 05:37 PM

Thank u. I think Rose's recipe just has way too much cocoa. I will try to cut it in 1/2 to see....
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#8 auzzi

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 12:07 AM

My copy of RLB's Chocolate Fondant [RLB]
1 tb gelatine
½ c water
⅔ c corn syrup
1 tb glycerine
¼ c shortening
1 ts vanilla
6 ¼ c icing sugar
2 c cocoa.
Sponge gelatine over water. Stir until disolved. Blend in syrup and glycerine. Add shortening to melt. Remove and add vanilla. Mix sugar & cocoa. Add gelatine mixture. Knead to a ball. Turn onto lightly oiled top and knead until smooth. Wrap and leave overnight
Notes: Chocolate Rolled Fondant is easier to work withwhen made one day ahead

#9 Annoula

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:23 AM

Personally I'll vouch for Michelle Foster's recipe. I've also battled making my own rolled fondant for quite some time, and until I made hers (yesterday!) I was always dissatisfied. The taste is lovely as well, and of course the price doesn't even compare to what I'd have to pay to purchase ready-made.

 

And by the way, I'm pleased to hear that you've found RLB's recipes a bit unreliable as I have too. I commented on this on Amazon, however, and I was almost beaten to a pulp by all her groupies!



#10 JeanneCake

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:46 AM

the amount of water will make a difference; in RLB's baking blog, she notes that the fondant seemed dry and kneading in small amounts of water helped return it to a workable state.  So maybe that scant ounce of water will make a difference (between the 1/3 cup your recipe listed and the 1/2 cup the recipe called for).  I can say I've made it and not had trouble, but it was so long ago that I cannot give you any pointers.  We buy Bakel's Pettinice chocolate fondant at work, we can't keep up with the amounts we need making it by hand :(







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