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#1 Anna N

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 04:55 PM

I picked up this package of steaks today thinking that I could easily google "Chicago Steak" to learn what cut it really is and how best to cook it. Google failed me! Anyone?

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#2 scubadoo97

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:00 PM

Looks like a flat iron or blade roast. Although in you photo it looks more like fat running through the center instead of a big tendon so not completely sure.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:11 PM

I'm guessing blade as well.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:30 PM

Me three.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:53 PM

Looks like a blade roast but the fat/connective tissue in the middle looks pretty thick...

#6 Anna N

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:10 PM

Looks like a flat iron or blade roast. Although in you photo it looks more like fat running through the center instead of a big tendon so not completely sure.


I believe it is fat and not tendon.
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#7 infernooo

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:27 PM

Sorry folks, that is chuck - guaranteed. It is exactly how it is cut for supermarkets here in Australia.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:59 PM

What infernooo said; chuck
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 09:11 PM

Chuck-eye steak or butcher's rib-eye. Cut between the shoulder and the rib. Fatty but tender, treat like a rib-eye.

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#10 scubadoo97

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:55 AM

Looks a little different from how I see them in our markets but I agree it's a chuck eye

#11 Kerry Beal

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:06 AM

Chuck is blade in Canada. Looks like blade to me too - but only the top part looks like eye.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:34 AM

if you look at a 7-bone roast or steak:

http://homecooking.a.../7boneroast.htm

you see several muscle groups from the shoulder. The 7 refers to that part of the scapula that well looks like a 7. that same primal chunk cut at a different spot on the scapula has a single bone in it as the 7 has 'run out'

It hard to find a good pic of the '7' but at that point you see the muscle on the extreme left slightly under the 7: thats that flat-iron, also called blade in USA. Note the tendon down its middle. Just above the 7 is another roundish piece: that's sometimes called a market steak.

If its really just fat between those two muscles you bought, it can't be the flat-iron. It also doesn't look like the market steak too much to me. Names vary so much region to region and butcher to butcher these days.

I used to see 7-blade all the time and always removed those two pieces and cooked them separately. After removing the tendon in the flat-iron, and using the market steak as is: both were very tender and had good beef flavor.

I have a good picture of the 7-blade and could scan it if you wish. Its from a very old but very informatie book: "Cutting up in the Kitchen"

http://www.amazon.co...33024404&sr=1-2

worth every penny at $$ 5 used.

also: http://www.txbeef.or...roast_and_steak

and

http://www.google.co...PUBMAk&dur=1572


2 is the flat-iron or blade

3 is the market steak but not very large in this cut.

maybe yours is a slice of 4 and 5?

Edited by rotuts, 29 March 2012 - 05:43 AM.


#13 Paul Bacino

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:46 AM

7-Blade is great-- But if..and I love dissecting !!

If you can get the long Bone( scapula ) in your chuck cut, this will actually put it nearer to the rib primal. :rolleyes:

Sorry for the divergence.

BTW...I cant get bone-in chuck..that much anymore.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:03 PM

7-Blade is great-- But if..and I love dissecting !!

If you can get the long Bone( scapula ) in your chuck cut, this will actually put it nearer to the rib primal. :rolleyes:

Sorry for the divergence.

BTW...I cant get bone-in chuck..that much anymore.

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Paul, look for a large 7 bone cut labeled as chuck pot roast. I'm not sure where you're from, but down here in Florida Publix markets carry some nice bone in chuck roasts.
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#15 Anna N

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:24 PM

Thank you all for your input. Given that there seems to be a fair bit of disagreement I finally did what I should have done yesterday - call the store and ask them! DUH. It is a blade steak. DAMN - looked a lot like a chuck eye to me but blade is good too. Now I know that low and slow is the best route to go. Will turn it into a stew or a curry in the next couple of days. Again, thanks everyone.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:56 PM

Blade is actually great as a steak and the whole blade primal, minus the connective seam is sold as flat iron steak. I can't tell from the pic how thick the steaks are but you should consider cutting out the seam and using them as kebabs or stir fry rather than braise them.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:00 PM

better yet, if the 'price point' appeals to you

get some more cut thicker: 1/2 " lets say.

cut out the middle.

"season" for a fast steak.

then cook 'fast'

turn over and finish in the oven until 'rare-ish'

delishious.

#18 Anna N

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:59 PM

better yet, if the 'price point' appeals to you

get some more cut thicker: 1/2 " lets say.

cut out the middle.

"season" for a fast steak.

then cook 'fast'

turn over and finish in the oven until 'rare-ish'

delishious.


This is a measured 1 1/4 thick so no worries there. Nevertheless I will be treating this lot as "blade". Perhaps next time I will be willing to experiment further. Thank you for the suggestion.
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#19 rotuts

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:06 PM

OK

Good

but 'blade'. 'flat-iron' USA terms is quite tender.

your experiments will tell us.

look forward to them.

pics if you might manage.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:25 PM

I don't really mean to beat this to death,

but I've have had issues with what I can get here as 'chuck' some SV'eds very well, some becomes 'mealy'

in the 7-bone days i could understand the muscle groups and go from there.

now ... ??

Ill ask one last experiment:

before you cook the two pieces of meat: 'poke' each muscle with a finger. are they different?

Im guessing the top part that's a little paler will be tougher to the touch than the lower deeper colored piece.

each will taste good. but that sort of info is all we can get these days.

Edited by rotuts, 29 March 2012 - 03:26 PM.


#21 Dave the Cook

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 04:31 PM

If it helps Anna, last I heard, the blade roast was Jacques Pepin's favorite cut for pot roast.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 10:44 AM

7-Blade is great-- But if..and I love dissecting !!

If you can get the long Bone( scapula ) in your chuck cut, this will actually put it nearer to the rib primal. :rolleyes:

Sorry for the divergence.

BTW...I cant get bone-in chuck..that much anymore.

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#23 Anna N

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 02:30 PM

If it helps Anna, last I heard, the blade roast was Jacques Pepin's favorite cut for pot roast.


Yup! And these two made awesome Beef Rendang a la Molly Stevens. My adult kids will be talking about it forever.
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#24 rotuts

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 03:27 PM

Kudos!

but ... might you give a few more details on what you made?

I'm very interested in how """Chuck""" or what ever one might have 'in the shoulder area' serves on the plate.

Edited by rotuts, 31 March 2012 - 03:31 PM.


#25 Anna N

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 02:16 AM

Kudos!

but ... might you give a few more details on what you made?

I'm very interested in how """Chuck""" or what ever one might have 'in the shoulder area' serves on the plate.



Here you go:


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