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[waterdogs]

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After 8-9 years of every day service, our Cuisinart coffeemaker is not likely to last too much longer. I have not been able to find a source to replace just the one broken part, and my limited repair skills are exhausted.

We have a good espresso machine, and I am not too sure about the single cup thing-ies -- so I need something like this: a standalone electric, with an advance set timer that can make 5-6 decent mugs of coffee in the wee hours of the morning. There is plenty of room for anything. I would prefer NOT to have it also grind (that I can manage to do) since I worry that two appliances in one is twice the chance for something to go wrong and break.

They still sell this particular Cuisinart (it is a DCC-12 or close to that number). But the reviews on Amazon indicate a lot of people have trouble with them breaking down. If I have already used up my luck with this Cuisinart, I am going to need a good recommendation. Thanks!

[andiesenji]

After 8-9 years of every day service, our Cuisinart coffeemaker is not likely to last too much longer.  I have not been able to find a source to replace just the one broken part, and my limited repair skills are exhausted.

We have a good espresso machine, and I am not too sure about the single cup thing-ies -- so I need something like this: a standalone electric, with an advance set timer that can make 5-6 decent mugs of coffee in the wee hours of the morning. There is plenty of room for anything. I would prefer NOT to have it also grind (that I can manage to do) since I worry that two appliances in one is twice the chance for something to go wrong and break.

They still sell this particular Cuisinart (it is a DCC-12 or close to that number). But the reviews on Amazon indicate a lot of people have trouble with them breaking down. If I have already used up my luck with this Cuisinart, I am going to need a good recommendation. Thanks!

Have you considered the Bunn? They don't need to be programmed to turn on because the water is always hot and pouring water into the top (after loading the grounds basket) will produce coffee immediately.
Bunn-O-Matic - how it works.


at Amazon


They did have a recall of an earlier version in 2005 but responded quickly to customer complaints and I know several people who prefer the Bunn-O-Matic to any other conventional coffee maker.

Edited by andiesenji, 18 January 2009 - 03:55 PM.

[JDQ1962]

I also have a Cuisinart coffee maker with timer/clock, I've had it for 4 years and really like it alot (actually the best I've ever owned) personally I'd stick with the brand if it worked so well for you.
Good luck.

[MGLloyd]

I am very fond of my Capresso MT500. It is very popular amongst coffee geeks due to reaching the proper brewing temperature, which few coffeemakers do.

Edited by MGLloyd, 18 January 2009 - 04:18 PM.

[ElsieD]

After 8-9 years of every day service, our Cuisinart coffeemaker is not likely to last too much longer.  I have not been able to find a source to replace just the one broken part, and my limited repair skills are exhausted.

We have a good espresso machine, and I am not too sure about the single cup thing-ies -- so I need something like this: a standalone electric, with an advance set timer that can make 5-6 decent mugs of coffee in the wee hours of the morning. There is plenty of room for anything. I would prefer NOT to have it also grind (that I can manage to do) since I worry that two appliances in one is twice the chance for something to go wrong and break.

They still sell this particular Cuisinart (it is a DCC-12 or close to that number). But the reviews on Amazon indicate a lot of people have trouble with them breaking down. If I have already used up my luck with this Cuisinart, I am going to need a good recommendation. Thanks!

I can't tell you what to get but I can tell you what NOT to replace it with and that is the Cuisinart Grind and Brew. We have one and I wish it WOULD break so I could get a new (other make) one. We like our coffee hot and our machine does not make hot coffee. We always have to zap it in the microwave. You might check the Cook's Illustrated web site for their coffee maker reviews. They put a lot of testing into the products they recommend.

[robyn]

We have this Bunn machine. It is really so fast that if you turn it on and go out to get the paper - you'll have ten cups (5 mugs) of coffee ready by the time you get back. It also has a pretty good warranty (3 years if I recall correctly) - and the company does honor it (our heating pad broke after a year and the company sent us a new machine pronto when we returned the broken one).

We had a cute 1 or 2 cup pod machine at a hotel we stayed at - and I was thinking of buying one until I saw that the pods - even in bulk - were about 25 cents each. That is a lot for a cup of coffee you make at home. Robyn

[Mano]

Technivorm

Edited by Mano, 18 January 2009 - 05:13 PM.

[Carole]

Technivorm.

[Batard]

Technivorm is great if you want to replace a $70.00 coffee maker with a $270.00 one. The Bunn-O-Matic is about $100, is easy to find, and makes excellent coffee.

[Heartsurgeon]

Technivorm

i bought one for the wife...

built like a tank
dirt simple to operate
makes fabulous coffee

besides, it looks odd..

what's not to like!!

[Darren72]

I have a Technivorm and love it. But the OP asked for a coffee maker with an advanced-set timer. My Technivorm doesn't have a timer. When I bought it, Technivorm didn't make one with a timer. Do they now?

[Batard]

But the OP asked for a coffee maker with an advanced-set timer.

The Bunn doesn't have one either. Features/specification sheet for the Bunn is here.

[Hard H2O]

I like to keep it a bit simpler and more budget friendly. Here is the one I got at Target for $30 on Saturday. I know I do not have a long term relationship but so far I like it.

I had a few specifications: a drinkable cup, programmable, auto shut off, reasonable price.

Hamilton Beach

[jayt90]

Does Capresso have a timer? As M. Lloyd mentioned, it is well reviewed and not costly.

If you have to settle for a more commercial brand, like Krups, get one with a thermal carafe. The main reason is not the carafe, but the fact that warming plates on the others take valuable BTU's away from the brewing pipe, and the coffee is not hot, as the OP has already experienced.

[andiesenji]

Again, there is no need to pre-set the Bunn coffee maker by using a timer. Once it is set up, the water is always hot and ready to brew instantly.
You must have the carafe under the outflow because as soon as fresh water is poured into the top, the brewed coffee is dispensed.
These are made to work exactly the same as the commercial Bunn brewers. I have one that I use when I have several guests and don't want to use my Senseo or when I want to brew coffee to take on an outing in a Thermos.
I am pretty sure that Bunn has the best guarantee in the marketplace.
We had a big multi-serve unit at my office for several years for both coffee and tea and never had a problem.

[Dave the Cook]

My only experience with Bunns has been with their commercial units, where the coffee is uniformly lousy, but that's because no one uses decent coffee in them. Maybe with good ingredients they do better. Still, I'm surprised at the enthusiasm for the Bunn. Doesn't holding water at 200F rid the water of dissolved oxygen?

My vote would also be for the Capresso MT500 (here's a Society-friendly Amazon link: Capresso MT500). Like ElsieD, I have a recent version of the Cuisinart Grind and Brew -- actually, I'm on my second, since the grinder gave out after three months. Three months into the replacement, the grinder on that one broke, too. If I'm going to spend $170 on a coffeemaker that won't grind, I want one that makes better coffee than the G&B does. The Capresso does that, and it has a timer and a very good thermal carafe.

[robyn]

My only experience with Bunns has been with their commercial units, where the coffee is uniformly lousy, but that's because no one uses decent coffee in them. Maybe with good ingredients they do better. Still, I'm surprised at the enthusiasm for the Bunn. Doesn't holding water at 200F rid the water of dissolved oxygen?

My vote would also be for the Capresso MT500 (here's a Society-friendly Amazon link: Capresso MT500). Like ElsieD, I have a recent version of the Cuisinart Grind and Brew -- actually, I'm on my second, since the grinder gave out after three months. Three months into the replacement, the grinder on that one broke, too. If I'm going to spend $170 on a coffeemaker that won't grind, I want one that makes better coffee than the G&B does. The Capresso does that, and it has a timer and a very good thermal carafe.

Or maybe the coffee is lousy because it's been sitting around for a couple of hours? I've used everything from regular Folgers to 100% Blue Mountain (the latter being an occasional splurge) with good results. My only problem with the machine is it doesn't turn off automatically. A good thing when my husband wakes up 2 hours later than I do - a bad thing when we're10 miles away from the house and can't remember if we turned off the coffee! Robyn

[Dave the Cook]

Sitting around for a couple of hours is unlikely. I'm talking about businesses I've worked at, where the typical pot is emptied in about 20 minutes -- and where the predominant brand seems to be Folgers. Perhaps we just have different definitions for good coffee.

[weinoo]

Sitting around for a couple of hours is unlikely. I'm talking about businesses I've worked at, where the typical pot is emptied in about 20 minutes -- and where the predominant brand seems to be Folgers. Perhaps we just have different definitions for good coffee.

As I'm sure a lot of people do, but since this topic is about coffee brewers, I have to say that everything I've read about the Technivorm leads me to believe that if I was to ever own an automatic coffee brewer, that would be the one.

IMO, the best home coffee brewer is a manual drip cone or French press.

[robyn]

Sitting around for a couple of hours is unlikely. I'm talking about businesses I've worked at, where the typical pot is emptied in about 20 minutes -- and where the predominant brand seems to be Folgers. Perhaps we just have different definitions for good coffee.

I like medium roast coffee with a fair amount of non-diary creamer and a little sugar. Mild and mellow. I must have one cup in the morning - but that's it for the rest of the day. Your mileage probably varies . Robyn

[prasantrin]

Should one really want a unit with a timer, but also really want a Technivorm or a Bunn, is there any reason one couldn't use one of those on/off timers (the ones often used for turning on and off lights when on vacation) with a unit? Would it damage the unit or decrease its coffee-making greatness in any way?

[Dave the Cook]

Many of the coffeemakers mentioned here draw 1200 watts and up -- beyond the capacity of units designed for lights.

But it would be cool to have a Coffee Clapper.

[paulraphael]

IMO, the best home coffee brewer is a manual drip cone or French press.

Yeah, I agree. And if you have a good thermos, there's really no need for an automatic machine. I find that full thermos keeps coffee hot and fresh tasting overnight. There's some shift in flavor, but I feel that there's a worse decline if you grind the beans 8 hours ahead of time.

I think it makes more sense to buy a cheap press pot or drip cone, and put the money into a decent burr grinder. Brewing is easy; grinding is hard.

[prasantrin]

Many of the coffeemakers mentioned here draw 1200 watts and up -- beyond the capacity of units designed for lights.

But it would be cool to have a Coffee Clapper.

I think it would be even cooler to have a maid to do all that stuff for me.

But (and sorry if I'm being dense), if I have a timer like this one which handles up to 15 amps and allows 3-prong appliances, then it should be OK--no?

If I buy the Bunn BTX (the one with the thermos), according to the spec sheet it's 7 amps and only has 2-prongs, so the timer above should be OK, shouldn't it?

Just wondering for future reference. . .

[Batard]

If I buy the Bunn BTX (the one with the thermos), according to the spec sheet it's 7 amps and only has 2-prongs, so the timer above should be OK, shouldn't it?

You'll be fine, that timer is heavy duty and can handle any household device that will plug into it. If you run your toaster and your coffee machine from the same wall outlet at the same time, you might have a problem, because those two devices combined may well go more than 15 amps. Just make sure that the total load isn’t more than 15 amps.

Or if you have a 20 amp outlet, you can go up to 20 amps total

If you are working with watts instead of amps, seven amps equals 770 watts; 15 amps equals 1650 watts (at 110 volts).

Edited by Batard, 20 January 2009 - 01:09 PM.

[robyn]

I'd be skeptical about using the Bunn with a timer. Because you turn the machine on by closing the lid where you pour the water in. The coffee starts coming out almost instantly when you close the lid. I don't know what would happen if you closed the lid - and the power wasn't on. Nothing good I suspect.

Also - the main virtue of the machine (except perhaps in terms of saving energy) is that hot water is stored in the machine - you are "topping it off" when you make coffee (you have to wait a while for the water in the unit to heat up when you first buy it - or after you clean it or shut it down for vacation). The water stored in the unit won't be hot if the power hasn't been on for a while when you try to make coffee. So - if you power on the unit only when you want to make coffee - you'll probably wind up with cold cofee.

I'd call the company and get its opinion first. But I suspect using this unit with a timer isn't a very good idea. Robyn

Edited by robyn, 20 January 2009 - 04:05 PM.

[Richard Kilgore]

My only experience with Bunns has been with their commercial units, where the coffee is uniformly lousy, but that's because no one uses decent coffee in them. Maybe with good ingredients they do better. Still, I'm surprised at the enthusiasm for the Bunn. Doesn't holding water at 200F rid the water of dissolved oxygen?

My vote would also be for the Capresso MT500 (here's a Society-friendly Amazon link: Capresso MT500). Like ElsieD, I have a recent version of the Cuisinart Grind and Brew -- actually, I'm on my second, since the grinder gave out after three months. Three months into the replacement, the grinder on that one broke, too. If I'm going to spend $170 on a coffeemaker that won't grind, I want one that makes better coffee than the G&B does. The Capresso does that, and it has a timer and a very good thermal carafe.

I don't have any experience with the Bunn, but have heard good things about the Capresso. If I was looking for a drip-machine the Capresso probably would be it.

Holding water at 200 degrees should not be a problem. The tea bar at The Cultured Cup uses Zori water heaters that can hold the temp at one of three settings, including 208 F and they do a great job brewing black and red teas at 208. If you run a full boil for a minute or two past reaching 212, however, it will indeed boil the life out of the water.

[Sam Iam]

Technivorm Moccamaster.

Yes, that's a handful of money. However, the Bunn unit is using expensive energy 24 hrs a day (I think). The cost should perhaps be equal after a year or two, and you're drinking much better coffee for years to come! A lot of my stuff, I couldn't care less, but my coffee maker needs to be the best, within some sort of reason.

I deserve it, don't you?

BTW, I also upgraded my coffee vendor to George Howell's Terroir Select Coffees. They normally have the Technivorm in stock, and have a great selection of roast coffees.

[Dave the Cook]

The Tuesday Morning flyer in my mail today says they have the Capresso MT500 for sale for $100. This is an excellent coffeemaker at a jaw-dropping price.

[Tony Boulton]

The MT500 is being replaced with a new model next month, so typical of Capresso, they have dumped their inventory.