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[Holly Moore]

I'm renting a villa on Isla Mujeres for a couple of weeks next month. Though the place comes with a kitchen and a bbq I plan on eating out most of the time. Looks like there are some great options.

Any recommendations on where/what to eat? Where should I shop for groceries? Food prep recommendations / cautions?

Any other thoughts on Isla Mujeres?

And, for a question never before asked on eGullet, does it make more sense to rent a scooter or golf cart?

Gracias,

[zoe b]

it's been a few years since I've been there, and we stayed in a B&B, so don't know about groceries, but as I recall, the food was excellent--and almost any place that looked good, was good.

sorry, I don't remember any names--and there weren't big signs--there was a little hole in the wall lunch place that had great tacos and delicious aguas frescas, and the places for dinner would show you some fish and you'd pick one and they'd grill it for you.

it was a sleepy place when we were there--I hope it hasn't gotten too built up.

report back--I'd love to hear about your visit.

and about the transportation--the roads were pretty rough--I would think a scooter rather than a golf cart.




Zoe

Edited by zoe b, 07 December 2007 - 07:39 AM.

[Susan]

I was there several years ago and we stayed at the Villa Rolandi which included dinner, so we ate there almost every night. The food, atmosphere and service are all very good there if you are looking for an upscale dinner. We did venture out one night for dinner to Casa O which was very nice. We requested a table by the water. Both restaurants overlook the water and are more of a fine dining dinner.

[Holly Moore]

I ate consistently better on Isla Mujers than just about any other place I've ever visited. Good and great meals. Not one regrettable meal. And at one restaurant I fulfilled two of my long time Mexican food quests - best ever Chiles Rellenos and best ever chicken with mole sauce.



Isla Mujeres is a small island, about 5 miles long and 30 minutes by ferry from Cancun. It is the diametric opposite of Cancun - not one American chain restaurant. Only a small 7-11 where the ferry lands and they don't even sell Slurpees. There are a few cars and trucks, but most everyone gets around on scooters or golf carts. Laid back and once one escapes El Centro and the day-trippers from Cancun, more village than metropolis.



Had many good breakfasts on the island. The most original was a cazuela invented by the owner of Cazuela M&J. A cazuela is a cross between an omelet and a souffle - eggs and milk whipped together, poured into a shallow clay dish, topped with cheese and heated fast in a very hot oven. It arrives at the table, bubbling and steaming. Takes a minute or two to calm down. I had one with shrimp, mushrooms and fresh herbs and another with ham and mushrooms. Cazuela M&J is on a buff overlooking the Caribbean. A perfect breakfast spot.



My favorite breakfast was at Color de Verano - feel of a French cafe. They serve breakfast and lunch, close for a while and then open up for desserts and coffee. I ordered the European breakfast. Perfect soft boiled eggs with three fresh baked and toasted mini-baguettes - one each of ham, salami and cheese.



Elements of the Island is a healthy food restaurant that, along with the yogurt, birchmuesli, and posters for yoga classes serves a healthy portion of crisp bacon. One of my breakfasts there - fried eggs atop roesti potatoes.



Every morning, after breakfast, I picked up a couple of slices of fresh baked banana bread and the occasional brownie at Aluxes Bakery and Cafe in El Centro. There are two or three kinds - a choice of plain, coconut, nut, and/or chocolate chip. It is packed full of bananas and so good that it is usually sold out by 10 AM.



As mentioned earlier, one restaurant, on the outskirts of El Centro, La Lomita, prepared the best chiles rellenos and chicken with mole sauce I've evern had. The mole sauce was incredibly complex and not nearly as overbearing as that I've had in the U.S.



La Lomita also introduced me to Sopa de Frijoles - bean and rice soup topped with avocado, onion, tomato, cilantro, lettuce and fresh cheese. Incredible.



Another lunch was at Playa Lancheros which is on the beach of the bay between Isla Mujeres and Cancun. Folks head there in the morning, swim, break for lunch, and swim some more. They are famous for the tix'n xic - red snapper brushed with achiote paste and grilled crisp. They also make guacamole to order. Best I had on Isla.

Other lunches were at restaurants that along the bay in El Centro, Isla Mujeres main business area. Isla Mujeres started off as a fishing village and many of the boats dock and unload right in front of the restaurants. It is amazing how many large fish a boat holds after a day of fishing. The menus at all these restaurants are pretty much the same - fresh fish and seafood.



One lunch was a medium size shrimp cocktail at Picus. It is served in an old fashioned sundae glass. The shrimp are aswim in a simple syrup like liquid that tastes of shrimp stock. On top a classic cocktail sauce.



At Mininos I had the mixed ceviche - shrimp, squid and octopus.



Valaquez is a Cuban restaurant on a narrows that runs between the bay and a lagoon full of marina's. It is located in a marina. Hard to find. I asked a guy coming out of a shack for directions, he said "aqui." February and March the waters off Isla are rumored to be the best in the world for sailfish fishing. Every day the fishing yachts cruise in and out the narrows by Valaquez. Great lunchtime entertainment while sitting on the porch that hangs over the water. For lunch, an Isla classic, available at just about every restaurant - red snapper sauteed in butter and garlic.



Kash Keken Chuc is Isla's version of a take-out restaurant. Pork cutlets, ribs and chicken marinated, grilled and sold by the quarter, half or full kilo. Regulars pack their own orders and ring it up on the cash register making their own change.



Sunday's only, Tino's or "the rib man" starts up his grill behind a wall off one of the side streets in El Centro. Menu's the same as Kash Keken Chuc.



My favorite dinner on Isla - Mixed seafod and rice at Sanchosos - Shrimp, conch and squid in a Creole like sauce less the okra. Fantastic flavor.



The ongoing debate on Isla is which place serves the best tacos al pastor - Ballpark Tacos or Taqueria Medina. Both as far as I'm concerned. Ballpark Taco has the best fixins bar though, including marinated nopal cactus.



At Ballpark tacos I had two al pastor and one chorizo taco. The green strips are the cactus.



At Taqueria Medina again two al pastor tacos and, at the servers suggestion, a barbecue taco on a corn tortilla.



I celebrated my last night on the island with a Bimbo dog. Alas, the source of the name is not what one might hope. Bimbo is the name of the bakery that supplies the buns.

For more some other restaurants and more pics of the places listed here, where else but Isla Mujeres at HollyEats.Com

[bigbear]

Wow, Holly. Thanks.

[georgeb]

Holly, great stuff.

Glad to see that HollyEats has been updated. It's still my go-to page for great eating experiences for any place you have covered!

You get my vote for the Calvin Trillin food blogger of the century!

[bjcohan]

¡Gracias!

Holly, this was a beautifully timed post. My DH and I will be in the area in April, and I've already put your list into my Treo! Hopefully, I'll be able to add to your recommendations.

You made me hungry!

Barb

[Holly Moore]

Yo Barb,

Did you make it to Isla?

[Holly Moore]

Heading back to Isla Mujeres in late January 2009. Anyone have some additional recommends?

Thanks

[mascarpone]

Heading back to Isla Mujeres in late January 2009.  Anyone have some additional recommends?

Thanks

I will be going to Isla Mujeres for New Years.
I will see if there is anything to add.

Also, if anyone has any other leads, would appreciate . . .

[Holly Moore]

Most raves I've heard are for a Mediterranean restaurant Olivia

Also on my list for this trip - Qubano for Cuban and a small spot, El Publito, near the south end of the island for Mexican home cooking and a great "Aztec Soup."

Baseball Tacos has moved to La Gloria. M&J Cazuella may be back at its original location by the time you get there or it may still be in its temporary location on Hildago in the same complex as the gelato place, La Coppo del Mundo.

And the HSB bank on Isla no longer exchanges dollars for pesos. To avoid paying excess exchange rates at the change bureaus pack an ATM instead of hard currency.

Have a great trip. If this is your first visit to Isla, you're going to come away hooked.

[Holly Moore]

I'll be on Isla for another two plus weeks. Here are some highlights to date.

A new restaurant The Mango Cafe has opened on the Caribbean Road. It would be a great restaurant anywhere and fits right in on Isla Mujeres. The cuisine is Mexican-Jamaican-Caribbean-Anywhere Else fusion and Lori, who owns it with her husband, has a great touch for bringing a dish together.

Breakfast my first day was oven baked french toast. "Oven Baked Conch Pastries soaked in eggnog liquer. Sprinkled with caramelized almonds and served with Orange Rosemary Syrup. Almost like a super rich bread pudding.



Went back for lunch a couple of days later - had a BLGT - Bacon, lettuce and tomato with avocado and green apple guacamole, on whole grain bread with homemade mayonnaise to which Lori adds honey and rice wine. Green apple is a perfect addition to a BLT.

Lori also makes fresh Tamarind juice and brews her own Jamaican Ginger Ale.



Sunday morning on the Yucatan Peninsula means Cochinita Pibil - pork marinated in citrus juice, colored with annato seed and slow roasted. There are roadside stands all over Isla that sell it till it runs out - usually by noon or earlier. I went to the public market in Colonia La Gloria - one stop for everything - cochinita pibil from the butcher, tortilla from the tortilla bakery and fresh orange juice from a produce stand.









More to come.

[Holly Moore]

Still more great eating on Isla Mujeres.

Qubano owner Vivian is cuban but here accent is pure New York City where she first settled after leaving Cuba. She ended up a few years ago on Isla Mujeres and despite not having cooked for twenty-five years decided to open a restaurant. She is the exception to the rule that experience is a must.

First time there I had what Vivian calls a Teston. A good friend's husband couldn't eat bread and he was begging for a sandwich. "She'd kill me if I fed him bread," Vivian explained, "So I decided to see if I could use plantain instead of bread."

She slices the plantains lengthwise and sautes them until they are firm. Uses them as bread and fills the sandwich with sauteed chicken and caramelized onions. Brushes the top plantain slice with Mojo sauce - sour orange, garlic and onion in oil. A creative and delicious sandwich that can be eaten as a sandwich.



I came back for Qubano's Cuban Sandwich. Vivian roasts the her own pork and saves the juices and the fat. When a sandwich is ordered she adds a bit to a pan and sautees the pork in its juices. This goes into the Cuban Sandwich along with the other traditional fixings. Where Cuban Sandwiches can sometimes be dry, Vivian's is juicy - a great improvement.


Had dinner at Olivia, a Mediterranean restaurant opened by an Israeli couple. Busiest restaurant on Isla - only place where reservations are a must.

Started with labane, yogurt strained into a cheese, served with green olives with lemon and pita bread.



For my entree, Chicken with Olives. The chicken is braised in red wine and tomatoes and served over couscous. They serve two thigh/drumstick quarters - no dryer, white meat.



Dessert - Baklava - perfect.



The Bistro Francais serves breakfast in the morning, closes for lunch and reopens with French cuisine for dinner.

Their french toast is really good. Nothing fancy or frilly. Just french toast. Perfectly cooked.



Another time had what they call the "Breakfast Surprise" - one slab of french toast and two fresh fruit filled crepes topped with maple cream sauce.



Plenty of Mexican home cooking too including fish tacos and enchiladas Suize from Rene and Renee

[zora]

Fantastic to hear about the newer joints, Holly!

It kills me because the guidebooks I work on just came out in new editions in the fall--I probably visited right before Qubano and Olivia opened. Arg.

What's up with Cazuela M&J? Why'd it move, and is it back in its original spot now?

[Holly Moore]

Fantastic to hear about the newer joints, Holly! 

It kills me because the guidebooks I work on just came out in new editions in the fall--I probably visited right before Qubano and Olivia opened. Arg. 

What's up with Cazuela M&J?  Why'd it move, and is it back in its original spot now?

Now you have reason to return, Zora.

Cazuela M&J will not be returning to its original location on a cliff overlooking the Caribbean. Their old location was at the Roca Mar hotel which changed hands. The new owners upped the rent and I hear wanted a different sort of restaurant.

Cazuela's food is just as good at their current location, but I'm hoping they find a place less hidden.

[zora]

Interesting... So where is the new location?

My next trip isn't till the summer--it's killing me!

[Holly Moore]

Heading back to Isla Mujeres next month. Anyone been there recently. Any recommends of places I have missed or that have recently opened.

Isla Mujeres @ HollyEats.com

Thanks

[Nyleve Baar]

Just got this short restaurant review in my email today (below). We'll be heading down there next month too - so we're interested in some new or updated information as well!

Our Restaurant Review: Limón Restaurante
Limón is the brainchild of Sergio Martinez and Charrissa Gillingham - formerly of Sergio's on Playa del Sol. It is situated on the ground floor of their pretty family home, near the Super Express in la Glorias. (If you are looking at the Super Express, turn to your left, and look for the terracotta-coloured house just up from the corner.)

Out of a possible 1 to 5 Forks - we've have awarded Limón the following.

Food: 4 Forks - My Seared Tuna was fabulous as were my Mussels. L. had delicious Beef Carpaccio and a Trilogy of Rosemary Kebabs with beef, chicken, and shrimp. His only difficulty was in removing the meat from the skewers - maybe a little spray 'pam' would fix that
situation.
Ambiance: 5 Forks - lovely inside, and in the garden
Service: 5 Forks - with the exception of one forgotten beer - perfect!
Wine: 3 Forks - one red and one white, good wines, but limited selection
Value: 4 Forks - $800.00 pesos for the two of us including tip and wine

[Holly Moore]

I read about Sergio's place on the Isla Mujeres Bulletin Board . If you're not familiar with it, lots of good info on restaurants and everything else Isla. From this page go to either Q&A Postings" and/or "Isla Chatter."

Have a great trip. I'll be the big guy on the small scooter sporting bright orange goggles.

[Nyleve Baar]

Hah! Will look for you. We'll be there for just a week toward the end of Feb. Just so you know, I've used your blog as a holy bible on Isla for a couple of years now. The cochinita pibil at the market in la Gloria is fantastic.

I'm sure you've done the tic n chix (sorry can never get the spelling right) at the restaurant at Playa Lancheros (I know it has a different name now). Last year there were 6 of us and we ordered the fish for lunch. What they brought us was a perfectly grilled fish about the size of a coffee table. It was delicious (and dirt cheap). We took the leftovers back to the place where we were staying and my husband disgusted us by hauling it out to eat for the next three days. By day 3, we made him eat it away from where we were sitting because we couldn't stand the smell of it anymore.

[Trev]

For some fine dining I'd recommend Rolandi --> http://villarolandi....asa-rolandi.php
I'd also recommend the stalls beside the market (a street up from Hidalgo) for a terrific breakfast and great hangover food. Breakfast and lunch only ( I didn't read the whole thread so this may have already been mentioned).
The whole place is pretty dynamic so there's always places opening up and closing, especially in a fragile economy. Have fun, my wife and I have been going there for years and it's always fun.
For something different I'd also recommend a day trip to Zama. It's a beach club near Rolandi, on sac bajo, just a little further than the tortugana. Last time we visited there was a cover charge, but it was subtracted from your drinks, so not really a cover charge. They just want to make sure people who come and use the amazing pools, hot tubs and beach, buy food and or drinks while there. We had a blast at Zama and will definitely go back.
Do a day trip to PDC too, it's a cool town.

Edited for a shout out for Velasquez! Never missed a trip to this place on the beach. 2 for 1 margaritas, fresh seafood galore and family owned for 28 years (maybe 29 now?).
Love that place! If you meed Gilbert be nice to him, he's an awesome guy.

Edited by Trev, 26 January 2012 - 06:22 PM.

[Nyleve Baar]

Tell me about Zama. Gone past it but never in - a little intimidated by the fanciness of the place (we're pretty low end types). What is the cover charge to use the beach club and what's the restaurant like?

Agree completely about Velasquez. Great seafood - and then they do that ridiculous "tequila" shots thing at the end of your meal. We discovered that the pink ones (for girls) and the blue ones (for boys) are pretty much the same. Very funny.

[Holly Moore]

The Isla restaurant I m most looking forward to for a return visit is El Veradero . A bit hard to track down - it sits on the Macax Lagoon. Easier to find with a Mapchick Isla Mujeres Map - $10 well spent for anyone heading to Isla.

El Veradero is Cuban. Great Fish, even better mojitos. Basically a shack that hangs over the water. Cooking happens a couple of shacks away. Perfect way to let the afternoon float by. The tropical restaurant of everyone's mind's eye.

[Trev]

Tell me about Zama. Gone past it but never in - a little intimidated by the fanciness of the place (we're pretty low end types). What is the cover charge to use the beach club and what's the restaurant like?

Agree completely about Velasquez. Great seafood - and then they do that ridiculous "tequila" shots thing at the end of your meal. We discovered that the pink ones (for girls) and the blue ones (for boys) are pretty much the same. Very funny.

Zama is really cool. It's pretty new and the pools are infinity type pools with cascades and Jacuzzi tubs above. Kinda hard to explain the set-up but it's lovely with a great view. I believe the cover charge was fifty bucks for the two of us (actually 250 pesos, about 20 bucks now), but after a day there it's no problem recovering that money. We felt it was really worth it. The service was excellent and the staff really friendly, too. I had to go out to visit a friend the day we were there but my wife stayed behind to swim and drink. She was comfortably numb by the time I returned later, so they're definitely putting booze into the drinks. The change rooms and showers were clean, as were the washrooms. I can't say much about the food as we only had the comp chips with a few kinds of salsa (we went after lunch). The reviews may expand on that a bit.
There are some pictures and reviews on tripadvisor --> http://www.tripadvis..._Peninsula.html

We love the after dinner 'poppers' at Velasquez! I think you're right that the pink and blue are the same. When they slam them down on the table and you've only got a second to get it into ya, well, you just know it's party time!
Love the food there! Last May we took in ~30lb of fresh Mahi Mahi after a great days fishing and they prepared it for us 4 different ways. We likely ate about 6 pounds of fish but told them to keep the rest for personal use, or to use at the restaurant. They were happy and we were stuffed. Over the years we've come to be friends with the family that owns it and look forward to a visit there every time we go.

Edited by Trev, 27 January 2012 - 11:12 AM.

[EatNopales]

Hi Holly... not sure what your experience is with Mexican cuisine but neither tacos (as photographed above) or Enchiladas Suizas remotely comprise home cooking... my memories of Isla & the Yucatan is that Yucatecan and Mexican home cooking are very hard to find in all of these tourist traps... I know you like the dining out but I would highly recommend on your next trip hiring a local cook to shop from the market and prepared what she (or less likely he) would prepare at home... the food will be drastically different (and typically better) then what you are going to get dining out. With few exceptions, even in Mexico City which by far has the most developed restaurant scene in the country... home cooking far surpasses the quality of restaurant dining.

The agent you use to book your condo should be able to provide several recommendations.


Salud y Buen Viaje!

[Holly Moore]

Hola EatNopales,

Stay in a condo? Moi? <G> The house I'm renting does have a cook who prepares great breakfasts. I will ask her to do a dinner or two and see what she comes up with.

I hate the pejorative "tourist trap," especially when referring to most of the restaurants on Isla Mujeres. A tiny little place like Renee and Renee is hardly a tourist trap. Nice people who try very hard to put out good cooking.

The same with most of the small restaurants on Isla Mujeres, and especially those in the colonias south of El Centro. Far more locals than tourists, though a lot of them do take out.

I would like to know more more about Yucatan cuisine and what to look for and try. What have I missed?

Gracias.

[EatNopales]

Hola EatNopales,

Stay in a condo? Moi? <G> The house I'm renting does have a cook who prepares great breakfasts. I will ask her to do a dinner or two and see what she comes up with.

I hate the pejorative "tourist trap," especially when referring to most of the restaurants on Isla Mujeres. A tiny little place like Renee and Renee is hardly a tourist trap. Nice people who try very hard to put out good cooking.

The same with most of the small restaurants on Isla Mujeres, and especially those in the colonias south of El Centro. Far more locals than tourists, though a lot of them do take out.

I would like to know more more about Yucatan cuisine and what to look for and try. What have I missed?

Gracias.

Hi Holly,


Perhaps "tourist trap" is a bit harsh.. but how best to characterize the erosion of culinary traditions that occurs in just about every touristy locale in the world (and particularly in Mexico)? With places like Isla Mujeres, Cozumel, Tulum it is very easy to observe that foreign tourist generally don't know much about the local cuisine.. might have some pre-conceived notions based on Mexican-esque restaurants that might exist where they live.. and so you have this back & forth negotiation between local entrepreneurs & tourists with an end result that is usually very different than the regional traditions.

A more subtle version of this comes from analyzing the culinary offering in touristy locales that mainly cater to locals. A great example is Progreso, the port town 20 miles north of Merida that is the primary beach destination for Merida recidents... if you contrast the culinary offering there with Merida it is VERY different. In Merida, you can go to the municipal mercado or any number of fondas outside of the tourist zones to find many places that serve the same type of home cooking that any Yucatec mom or grandma might cook for their own family... yet in Progreso.. these types of dishes are virtually impossible to find. The culinary practices of those that live in Progreso have even morphed & adapted to the touristy food... and you might argue.. well ports have different cuisine than inland communities... yes there are some differences but if you go to non-touristy fishing towns like Tizimin or Seybaplaya you see gastronomic traditions that are more in line with Merida & Campeche City than with Progreso, Isla Mujeres, Tulum etc.,


So what is Yucatec home cooking? In the steamy heat of the Yucatan, like in the rest of Mexico and Mesoamerican Central America.. you can not have a proper home meal without some kind of Soup or Stew... and usually it is the focus of the meal. The two most common progressions in a proper home cooked meal follow the:

Antojito -> Soup / Stew

and

Soup -> Grilled / Pit Roast / Fire Roasted Protein Model



Yucatecan home cooking can be described as 1,001 ways to combine Maize, Bean (Black or Lima), Pumpkin (Seed or Flesh), Tomato / Tomatillo, Chiles & Chaya with a modest portion of various proteins. I cannot stress the importance of Chaya & Pumpkin to the daily Yucatec diet... they eat those like people in Central Mexico eat Nopales & Zucchini... i.e., its eaten every day and often several times a day. It is a rare day when a Yucatec home cook omits those ingredients.


A typical Yucatec home soup (often called Puchero) might have a little chicken, turkey, pork, salted beef, fish or shrimp in its broth seasoned with achiote, lime juice, braised pumpkin and chaya + a garnish of roasted chile blanco... that soup would be served concurrently or preceded by a "dry i.e., griddled or fried not steamed" masa based dish such as Panucho, Salbute or Pan de Cazon.


Alternatively, the meal might start with a Dzotobichay (tamale with chopped Chaya, roasted pumpkin seeds & hardboiled egg interspersed throughout that is topped with a roasted tomato salsa)... then followed by a guisado ("dry stew" think of it almost like a cassoulet) of protein chunks, whole beans or lima beans, cubed pumpkin, diced tomato & recaudo paste.


Other genres of Yucatec soup include those thickened with Masa and/or Cheese and/or or Roasted Pumpkin Seeds... for example they commonly eat a soup of chopped Chaya in a masa broth, chopped Chaya & Edam Cheese thickened with a little cornstarch, or chopped Chaya in a broth of pureed pumpkin seeds... to those basic items the resourceful cook will add a variety of garnishes & seasonal ingredients for variety.


Yucatan home cooking is not only about Soups & Stews... things like Tik'n Xic, Pompano grilled in Hoja Santa leaves, Poc Chuc, Cochinita Pibil, Parrilladas (Mixed Grill Plates), Roasted Suckling Pig, Roasted Turkey, Pib roasted Venison etc, also form part of home cooking traditions and in those cases the meal would start with a thin / clear broth soup involving the basic ingredients described above.. followed by the meat centric non-stew dish + tortillas + xnipec + pureed black beans etc., but these types of meals are more of a once a week luxury than an everyday diet.


In addition to those simple dishes there are of course, more involved celebratory dishes such as Relleno Blanco (Roast Turkey in a thin White Mole), Relleno Negro (Roast Turkey in a thin very smokey Black Mole), Escabeche (Grilled Pheasant or Quail + vegetables served in a spicy Vinaigrette) etc.,


And of the Yucatan also has its seafood cocktail / raw traditions that form part of the weekend entertaining traditions.


But most meals of the week fall in the 1,001 ways to combine Maize, Beans, Tomato, Chile, Pupmkin & Chaya vein.

Edited by EatNopales, 29 January 2012 - 05:25 PM.

[Holly Moore]

Great answer, thanks. I'm well armed for my upcoming trip to Isla.

[Trev]

EatNopales, it doesn't help the erosion of tradition when every other tourist is asking where they can find a good pizza. Just look at PDC, for example, it's got a disproportionate number of Italian restaurants. You really have to go off the beaten path to find local foods, but it is possible.

[Holly Moore]

The majority of tourists on Isla Mujeres, especially the day trippers, either spend all their time in El Centro or one of the beach clubs where the tour boats land, or they rent a golf cart and never stray from the route that circles Isla. But break away from that and spend time in the colonias and one is immersed in the day to day life and dining of non-touristy Isla. Since Isla is about 4-1/2 miles long it is easy to find traditional if one tries.