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#1 The Cynical Chef

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 08:22 PM

The Easter freeze has killed off practically all of South Carolina's peaches and other tree fruit. And Georgia's, Tennessee's, N Carolina's, Alabama's and Virginia's fruit too. I am sooo depressed. The highlight of my culinary year is the arrival of peach season. The peaches are followed by plums, nectarines, apples, figs and apricots but we will be lucky to see 10 to 20 % of the typical harvest.

I can't believe this. It may be June of 2008 before there is enough peaches to go around.

I need to go and smoke some pork ribs to console myself.....
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#2 rjwong

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 08:29 PM

My condolences. :sad: :sad:

Do you consider it worse than what happened in California earlier this year?

Uhh ... may I console you and your smoked pork ribs ... please?
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#3 docsconz

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 10:04 PM

This is bad news indeed as I particularly look forward to these peaches in the summer.
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#4 moosnsqrl

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 05:27 AM

John,

I heard this when I was driving and was so shaken it nearly caused dire results! We will likely have peaches (although we've had cold enough weather to adversely affect, if not destroy, our crop here) but I'm unaware of anyone growing any of the other stone fruits.

It will be a rather sad season for lack of them. Ribs are an interesting substitute . . . after you smoke them do you put them in a cobbler or a buckle or ? :wink:
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 06:24 AM

We have lost our fruit crops in Missouri as well. Grapes also were affected, maybe to the point of several years to recover from damage to the vines.

A hard blow to Missouri's wine producers.

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#6 docsconz

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 09:37 AM

Does anyone know if New Jersey and/or Pennsylvania fruit has been affected?
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 09:39 AM

We get great peaches here in Ontario, but it wont happen until around Late July or August.

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 10:58 AM

I haven't heard from the Southwest Georgia peach farmer's yet, but the central Georgia Farmers are singing the blues.

Sad. I do look forward to a spring drive up every year, and a case back home with me.

About five years ago, it seems they set well then late Spring hail took the fruit out. Mother Nature. I guess she makes sure we don't take anything for granted.
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#9 robyn

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 03:38 PM

Don't forget about the farm workers. We went through Peach County (Georgia) last year during peach season - and saw hundreds of workers (mostly Mexican). I can go without peaches more easily than they can go without work. Robyn

#10 viva

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 06:50 PM

<sadness>

I am consoling myself with the flat of strawberries I picked up at the farmers' market yesterday.
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#11 The Cynical Chef

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 09:33 AM

As of last Friday the South Carolina Peach Council estimates crop losses of 90 to 95 percent. I cannot stand the thought of having to wait another 14 months before I can savor a South Carolina Peach. The scary part is the possiblity of several peach farmers throwing up their hands and selling their orchards over to a developer.

My 2 favorite apple orchards in western North Carolina are finished off as well.

The only good news seems to be from the blueberry guys and the strawberry fields. We may have 25% of the estimated blueberry crop which is better than nothing and strawberries are rebounding quickly.

I sure hope that the peach & apple guys have proper insurance to get through this year. The Blueberry & balckberry guys typically have small patches of land but in order to farm tree fruit you really need a bunch of land which means greater exposure to financial stress.

I think this may be worse than California's spring of 2006 because the peach orchards are small, family owned operations whereas CA has lots of corporate money involved in farming. Just my opinion though.

I cannot imagine what I would do if tomorrow I had absolutely no product to sell to my customers and I had to wait a full year until that product was coming back.
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#12 docsconz

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 09:41 AM

I would hope that the effected farmers have more variety than a single crop to bring to harvest and sell, although few would have the cache in that particular region that peaches have. The problems in the south may prove to be a boon for farmers in other areas like California as peach prices are likely to be high.
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#13 robyn

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 07:10 PM

I would hope that the effected farmers have more variety than a single crop to bring to harvest and sell, although few would have the cache in that particular region that peaches have. The problems in the south may prove to be a boon for farmers in other areas like California as peach prices are likely to be high.

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The peach place we went to in Peach County (very large place) had 3 crops - peaches - strawberries - and pecans - different seasons. The biggest problem IMO will be the thousands of Mexican farm workers who will be out of work. I don't think Georgia is prepared to take care of them.

The peaches from the southeast come here in Florida at times different than those from California - the ones from from the southeast in the early summer - those from Californiia in the late summer. The seasons are just totally different. Robyn

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 07:34 PM

I would hope that the effected farmers have more variety than a single crop to bring to harvest and sell, although few would have the cache in that particular region that peaches have. The problems in the south may prove to be a boon for farmers in other areas like California as peach prices are likely to be high.

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The peach place we went to in Peach County (very large place) had 3 crops - peaches - strawberries - and pecans - different seasons. The biggest problem IMO will be the thousands of Mexican farm workers who will be out of work. I don't think Georgia is prepared to take care of them.

The peaches from the southeast come here in Florida at times different than those from California - the ones from from the southeast in the early summer - those from Californiia in the late summer. The seasons are just totally different. Robyn

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My experience in northeastern NY is that California peaches are around throughout the summer with Southern peaches arriving in mid-July and extending through mid-August at which time Northern peaches are available.
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#15 cdh

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 08:10 PM

Hmmmm. I'm going to have to make sure to spray and otherwise take care of the peach tree in my yard... Here in Southeastern Pennsylvania, the trees haven't begun to flower yet because of the cold snap... the magnolia even survived because it had not opened up yet by the time the nights got below freezing. A very late spring indeed.
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#16 rlibkind

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 08:27 PM

Does anyone know if New Jersey and/or Pennsylvania fruit has been affected?

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Statistics put out this week by Pennsylvania would seem to indicate we're okay. The blooming is late this year (as noted by cdh), so that means the would-be fruit wasn't harmed. The Ag Agent for Gloucester County NJ (the state's largest peach producing county) says there was very little damage due to the cold. Blooming is later than last year, but it's pretty much on a par with the average of recent years, so unless something else happens it should be a good year for Jersey peaches and other stone fruits. Given the state of the crop down south, the Jersey orchardists should be getting a pretty penny for their output this year.
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#17 Varmint

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 06:12 AM

Kathy Purvis of the Charlotte Observer had an article discussing the effects of the cold weather on North Carolina's growing wine industry: Click here for the article

Agriculture agents in grape-growing counties, particularly around the Yadkin Valley, report heavy losses in white-wine grapes such as chardonnay, pinot gris, viognier and riesling. Those vines break into buds early, and warm temperatures before the freeze pushed them as much as two weeks ahead.


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#18 NYC Mike

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 08:12 AM

Just found out today that 100% of the blueberry crop at the farm we went picking at last year was lost during the Easter frost....what a bummer.

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#19 sparrowgrass

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 09:25 AM

On the positive side, my grapes are producing like mad.
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#20 Varmint

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 10:39 AM

We're getting South Carolina peaches around here. I've seen absolutely zero NC peaches. It's quite depressing, but I'm happy that we have some of my favorite fruit. Blueberries haven't been a problem around here.
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Posted 03 July 2007 - 11:46 AM

Just found out today that 100% of the blueberry crop at the farm we went picking at last year was lost during the Easter frost....what a bummer.

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our blue berries are just beginning to ripen. I went and chased a cardinal off one of the bushes yesterday and there were almost a dozen just about ready to go. It seems awfully late this year but I suppose w/ the late frost and the drought I should be happy to be fighting the birds for what I have.
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#22 viva

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 12:30 PM

I have not seen any peaches at the farmer's market yet (I hit the Saturday Durham market). I have seen "local peaches" at the Earth Fare, not sure if NC or SC. They were mighty fine, however, and wonderfully fragrant - a little bruised, but I'll take flavor + bruising over no-flavor + no-bruising.

The blackberries have been phenomenal. I've eaten 3 pints since Saturday. <urf>

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#23 Varmint

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 12:40 PM

The peaches I bought were the so-called "ice cream peaches." Those are the ones that have a bruise or two and are fully ripe. If these were the regular peaches, it would have cost me over $30. Because of their condition, these peaches cost me $5. I love a bargain. And boy, were they fantastic!
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#24 viva

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 02:00 PM

Yeah, I bought five "local" peaches on Saturday at Earth Fare and they were gone by Sunday afternoon. They were definitely cheaper than their other "organic" or "donut" or whathaveyou peaches. If I've got juice running down my chin while eating a peach, that's a good sign. I'll have to go back and see where they're from. I might just do that tonight.

Edit: They're from SC. Monetta, SC. I don't know that I'd call 270 miles away "local" - but they're good nonetheless. And, I might add, only $1.49/lb.

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 03:26 PM

The peaches I bought were the so-called "ice cream peaches."  Those are the ones that have a bruise or two and are fully ripe.  If these were the regular peaches, it would have cost me over $30.  Because of their condition, these peaches cost me $5.  I love a bargain.  And boy, were they fantastic!

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It's kind of a really long trip for you - but people in the Atlanta area might try Lane Packing Co. in Peach County Georgia (about an hour south of Atlanta). It's a grower - but it also has a restaurant - a gift shop full of peaches and peach things - and a packing plant (which you can tour when it's open - interesting operation). It is not exactly quaint - or undiscovered - but it does have plenty of peaches (everything from the ice cream peaches you mentioned to the kind you pack very very carefully :smile: ). I'd call ahead and check to see how peach season is doing there now (I think it's kind of a bit late for peaches in Georgia). Our growing season is now over (too hot) - except for basil. Robyn

#26 Mottmott

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 05:30 PM

I don't know how bountiful the crop is, but in Philadelphia, the Farmers' Markets have wonderful peaches, plums, cherries, and all sorts of berries. Northstar, my favorite vendor (Pa) sells them for the same price as last year.

This sort of local crop wipe-out is just another argument for local farm production and crop diversity.
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#27 laniloa

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 05:34 PM

There are fewer roadside stands then last year, but still plenty of south Georgia peaches to be found in the Cairo, Thomasville area. The peaches don't seem any worse for wear.

#28 Lawen

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 11:16 PM

I found pretty decent SC peaches at the Midtown Atlanta Whole Foods today. They need a day or two to ripen on the window sill but are pretty good overall. The roadside stands seem pretty depleted though.

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 10:48 AM

Anecdotal report from New Jersey:

Georgia peaches have been in the local markets here for about a month now. (I have no idea what part of Georgia they've been from.) They started out very tiny & have grown to a decent size.

Whole Foods seems to have a lock on a portion of the crop. Seems funny that some of you Georgia folk are buying Carolina peaches while I'm getting Georgia.

Anyway our Jersey peaches hit the stands this week so that's it for me.
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