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	<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Is wine the best gift for father on fathers day in USA?</title>
		<link>http://forums.egullet.org/topic/145030-is-wine-the-best-gift-for-father-on-fathers-day-in-usa/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>I read somewhere that wine is the best gift for fathers day in USA, UK. So, I ask this question here, if anybody know about it then share your information here.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Japanese Chocolate Chip Chops</title>
		<link>http://forums.egullet.org/topic/145029-japanese-chocolate-chip-chops/</link>
		<description>Does anybody know how this things are made? I have a dear friend, who loved them when living in Japan. Would be a great gift to bring along.</description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 21:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Cocktail using Champagne</title>
		<link>http://forums.egullet.org/topic/145028-cocktail-using-champagne/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>I need to come up with a cocktail using Veuve Cliquot Yellow Label for a small (under 20) group of female lawyers. &#160;They want something fun and fruity. &#160;Suggestions?</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>The Brooklyn Cocktail</title>
		<link>http://forums.egullet.org/topic/145027-the-brooklyn-cocktail/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">I decided to start this new thread after some discussions with <a href='http://forums.egullet.org/user/40563-mkayahara/' class='bbc_url' title=''>mkayahara</a> (thanks Matt for the inspiration!). </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">The question of ratios for the Brooklyn came up. It became apparent that there were very different recipes floating around. </span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">I first encountered this cocktail in Ted Haigh's Vintage Spirits and Forgotten Cocktails (I have the 2009 edition).&#160;It is essentially a dry Manhattan with a touch of Picon and maraschino liqueur. </span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"></span></p><p></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">Ted Haigh's Vintage Spirits and Forgotten Cocktails</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">2 oz rye</span></p><p></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">3/4 oz dry vermouth</span></p><p></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">2 tsp [~1/3 oz] Amer Picon</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">2 tsp [~1/3 oz] maraschino</span></p><p></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"></span></p><p></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">The version in the Savoy Cocktail Book has a&#160;2:1 rye to vermouth ratio similar to Ted Haigh, but less Picon & maraschino.</span></span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">Savoy Cocktail Book (1930)</span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">2/3 Canadian Club whisky</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1/3 dry vermouth </span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1 dash Amer Picon </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1 dash maraschino </span></span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">Doing more digging there is Joseph Straub version (the original) with a 1:1 rye to dry vermouth ratio. </span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"></span></span></p><p></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><strong><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">Joseph Straub (1914)</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">3/4 oz rye </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">3/4 oz&#160;dry vermouth</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1 dash Amer Picon</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1 dash maraschino </span></span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">The modern versions seem to tweak the balance quite a bit. For example the version in <a href='http://www.diffordsguide.com/cocktails/recipe/2785/brooklyn-cocktail' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>diffords.com</a> reduces the amount of dry vermouth (3:1).</span></span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><strong><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">Diffords</span></strong></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1 1/2&#160;oz rye </span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1/2&#160;oz dry vermouth</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1/4 oz Amer Picon</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1/4 oz maraschino </span></span></span></span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>To make things more confusing, Martin Doudoroff and Ted Haigh's cocktaildb.com has two versions. One under <a href='http://www.cocktaildb.com/recipe_detail?id=4123' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Brooklyn</a> which is identical to the Savoy version, and another one under <a href='http://www.cocktaildb.com/recipe_detail?id=344' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Brooklyn Cocktail</a> which is identical to Diffords.</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">Then, lastly, there is the version I've been using recently. That one drastically reduces the dry vermouth&#160;(8:1 rye to vermouth ratio) and clearly puts the emphasis on the Picon.</span></span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><strong>&#160;</strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">Bartender's Choice App</span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">2&#160;oz rye </span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1/4 oz dry vermouth</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1/2 oz Amer Picon</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial, 'sans-serif';font-size:10.5pt;">1/4 oz maraschino </span></span></span></span></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>One variable is the type of Picon that you use. Picon is a bitter apperitif made from orange zest, cinchona (quinine)&#160;and gentian. There is Picon <span>Bi&#232;re</span>, Amer Picon (harder to track down), vintage Amer Picon (even harder to find), Amer Boudreau, Am&#232;re Nouvelle, Torani Amer, Amaro CioCiaro, etc. For example Ted Haigh says to substitute Torani Amer for the Picon. For my experiments I am using Picon <span>Bi&#232;re </span>because that is what I have access to. But I am counting on Matt to report on his work with Am&#232;re Nouvelle and Amer Boudreau...</p>
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<p><em>to be continued...</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Marlin en Escabeche recipe needed</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>hello ! im looking for marlin en escabeche recipe</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 18:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>HELP!  re prime rib in the oven</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>My coworker is planning to cook at 10 lb prime rib tomorrow night for a dinner party.&#160; She found a recipe that said to roast at 200 degrees for 3-4 hours until it comes up to 120 degrees, then sear on stove top to finish.&#160; Sounds fine, except the recipe goes on to say that it doesn't matter how big the roast is, it will still take 3-4 hours.&#160; Sounds crazy to me.&#160; Can anyone weigh in on this before she goes home at 5pm Ny time?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 18:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>La chamba on fire</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love cooking in the embers of a fire, such as an outdoor fireplace. Up to now I've used cast iron for this. Recently, however, I have acquired two LA Chamba pieces, and the promo says the can be used in fires and grills. I've seen pictures of a La Chamba beanpot nestled in embers that make me salivate. But the same promo says to avoid large changes in temperature. So how does one start a pot of beans on the fire?  Or put a La Chamba skillet on the fire?  Or put it on a grill?<br><br>
For cast iron, I'd just put the cookware straight into the coals or on a grill. I'm confused on the La Chamba though. Treat it just like cast iron?<br><br>
Thanks in advance for any advice.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Making Homemade Almond Milk</title>
		<link>http://forums.egullet.org/topic/145023-making-homemade-almond-milk/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>I want to make some almond milk strawberry smoothies, and I bought some almond milk to use in the recipe.&#160; I was aghast at the list of ingredients the milk contained, and not at all satisfied with the taste.&#160; Looking at other brands, the ingredients were just as plentiful and annoying.&#160; So, I'd like to make my own.</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>I went on line, grabbed a few recipes and ideas, and will attempt a batch or two in the next couple of days.&#160; However, I thought I'd ask here if anyone's made almond milk, and what sugestions or caveats they may have.&#160; Thanks!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 15:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Would you buy a chicken genetically modified not to feel pain?</title>
		<link>http://forums.egullet.org/topic/145022-would-you-buy-a-chicken-genetically-modified-not-to-feel-pain/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I was chatting to a colleague today about someone we mutually admire - the bioethicist Peter Singer. He told me about Singer's argument that factory farmed chickens should be genetically engineered so that they do not feel pain. I was intrigued and did some googling when I came home. I found a link where the thesis is expanded upon and discussed - <a href='http://www.academia.edu/2560199/Knocking_Out_Pain_in_Livestock_Can_Technology_Succeed_Where_Morality_has_Stalled' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>here</a>.<br><br>What do you think? Would you buy and eat such a chicken, or does the thought of it give you the heebie-jeebies? ]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 13:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Top Chef New Orleans</title>
		<link>http://forums.egullet.org/topic/145021-top-chef-new-orleans/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Season 11.&#160;</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><a href='http://eater.com/archives/2013/05/10/bravo-confirms-new-orleans-is-in-for-top-chef-season-11.php' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>eater.com:archives:2013:05:10:bravo-confirms-new-orleans-is-in-for-top-chef-season-11</a></p>
<p><a href='http://eater.com/archives/2013/05/14/top-chef-to-get-375000-from-louisiana-and-nola.php' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>eater.com:archives:2013:05:14:top-chef-to-get-375000-from-louisiana-and-nola</a></p>
<p><a href='http://eater.com/archives/2013/05/14/bourdain-8.php' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>eater.com:archives:2013:05:14:bourdain-8</a></p>
<p><a href='http://www.bravotv.com/blogs/the-dish/top-chef-season-11-heads-to' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>www.bravotv.com:blogs:the-dish:top-chef-season-11-heads-to</a></p>
<p><a href='http://www.nola.com/tv/index.ssf/2013/05/state_local_tourism_offices_pa.html?view=print' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>www.nola.com:tv:index.ssf:2013:05:state_local_tourism_offices_pa.html?view=print</a></p>
<p>&#160;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 12:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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