Finding the best Chocolate Cake recipe, MERGED TOPIC
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Finding the best Chocolate Cake recipe, MERGED TOPIC
| Wendy DeBord |
Apr 19 2004, 10:40 AM
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Several times now I've worked with others off site thru pm's exchanging recipes, in search of "the best of". I'd like to bring this topic up to everyone........would you participate and share you best recipes, test others recipes, compare and see if we can all benefit from this? I'd like to see other pro's get involved, will you too be interested and participate?
The main recipes I'm interested in networking on are basics: the best chocolate cake, the best white sratch cake, best yellow, best sponge, etc....These seem like simple cakes, well they are, but to a certain respect their very difficult because most don't compare in texture to a mix. Unforunately I live in a world that judges cakes to mixes and usually the mix wins in taste tests, especially white cake. Yellow cake which I get requests for, recipes doesn't really seem to exist (theres only a handful out there labeled yellow). You have butter cakes, sponge cakes, etc....but nothing really seems to come close to what consumers see in the box yellow mises. I feel like I'm already using the best carrot and banana cake recipes. Cakes that get flavor from ingredients other then butter, flour and sugar are much easier to achieve good taste from. But the simple chocolate, white and yellow cakes are very ilusive. I also don't see the challenge in genoise or non-american cakes.........seeing that their rarely used on their own as is or in a wedding cake. So what do you think? Unlike the other thread were they're working from one book, "Baking With Julia", you can bring the best recipe you've ever found from any source.......as long as we link to the recipe and excerpt or we put the recipe and directions in our own words we won't plagiarize and we'll respect fair use. So who's in? |
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| Wendy DeBord |
Apr 20 2004, 06:44 AM
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o.k. first heres the chocolate cake recipe I use the most. I've tried sooooo many other chocolate cake recipes and find this to be the most consistant and the best tasting, best crumb, best keeper. It's from Scott Clark Woolley, a well known cake decorator. I don't have his book in front of me at this moment but if you want the name I'd be happy to post it later.
Fudge Brownie Cake, yeild: 2, 9" rounds sift together: 3 c. flour 1 1/2 c. cocoa 1 1/2 tsp. soda 1 tsp. salt reserve. Cream: 3/4 c. butter with 2 c. sugar Then add: until creamy 3 eggs 1 c. buttermilk 2/3 c. veg. oil 2 tsp. vanilla Then mix in you dry ingredients from above. To this you add: 1 1/2 c, boiling water or hot coffee. Nuts are optional Dirrections: Now heres the wierd part, baking. The author reccomends 275-300F oven and NOT hotter. They are allowed to cool in the pans for ONLY/exactly 5 minutes and then you turn them out and wrap them in plastic wrap, sealing them. This step can't be omited, it does steam the cake and that does make the cake better then if you air cooled it (I've done both, wrapped is better). I've also baked it at 350 and that does work but a cooler oven is better. Be forwarned this cake does not rise high in the pan, it will be pretty close to the level of batter when finished. I've mulitpled this recipe as high as x6 which fills a 20qt mixing bowl, with no problems. This cake can be baked in any size pan with-out changes. Why this isn't totally perfect: the top domes and cracks. Perhaps it needs a slight adjustment in leavening-but I've never played with it. I hope you all will try this recipe and then tell us what your think. On a scale of 1 to 5, 1 being horrible and 5 being perfect (as in the best you've ever made) rate it. Then if you have a chocolate cake recipe you think is better then this, please post it....and we will move on from there working as a group. |
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Wendy DeBord Finding the best Chocolate Cake recipe Apr 19 2004, 10:40 AM
Moopheus I'd be up for some experimental chocolate cake... Apr 19 2004, 06:23 PM
Marlene Sinclair, can we tie this to the eGRA somehow? :sm... Apr 19 2004, 06:31 PM
nightscotsman I think this sounds like a really great idea. I... Apr 19 2004, 06:36 PM
Wendy DeBord It would nice if we could rank our opinions on eac... Apr 19 2004, 08:46 PM
FWED Hi Wendy, I would be glad to participate in any w... Apr 19 2004, 09:36 PM
Dee Great idea!
I have found recipes that work b... Apr 19 2004, 10:37 PM
lorea Great idea, Wendy! I would love to join in.
... Apr 19 2004, 11:57 PM
bripastryguy I'm in! My clients and customers could ben... Apr 20 2004, 07:19 AM
FWED This may seem like dumb questions but i want to av... Apr 20 2004, 08:50 AM
Wendy DeBord OH good questions FWED.
I use all purpose in this... Apr 20 2004, 02:35 PM
kthull Yay! I'm glad you started this Wendy.
Is... Apr 20 2004, 08:04 PM
Wendy DeBord Hum good points Kevin........
Well I know most p... Apr 21 2004, 06:18 AM
Marlene There are ways to group recipes in the archive so ... Apr 21 2004, 06:38 AM
nightscotsman Wendy - I will try to bake a test of your recipe s... Apr 21 2004, 06:39 AM
Wendy DeBord I prepare all my pans by spraying with a non-stick... Apr 21 2004, 06:59 AM
Marlene
Well that puts me neatly in my place :biggrin: ... Apr 21 2004, 07:03 AM
nightscotsman
Well that puts me neatly in my place :biggrin: ... Apr 21 2004, 07:19 AM
Ladybug
Now, now, Marlene! :laugh: I'm definit... Apr 21 2004, 07:22 AM
kthull The 1 month timeframe is very generous...should be... Apr 21 2004, 09:04 AM
FWED I would like to recommend the Cake Bible by Rose L... Apr 21 2004, 11:32 AM
lorea Okay..I made this cake last night! I'm bu... Apr 21 2004, 12:52 PM
mklynch I LOVE chocolate cake - well, chocolate anything..... Apr 21 2004, 05:22 PM
Betts I have had the best success with Gale Gand's r... Apr 21 2004, 07:30 PM
Moopheus I tried the cake today.
I started with 12 oz of ... Apr 21 2004, 07:58 PM
Wendy DeBord o.k. I see that I forgot something. I never use, a... Apr 22 2004, 04:25 AM
Wendy DeBord May I restate, everyone is welcome to participate... Apr 22 2004, 04:51 AM
Moopheus
Freeze it overnight? But that means planning ahea... Apr 22 2004, 04:37 PM
mklynch I made the cake yesterday, baked it about 45 minut... Apr 22 2004, 05:35 PM
mkfradin I've been working with a cake that sounds a li... Apr 22 2004, 06:58 PM
Wendy DeBord Marjorie, if you've got a great choc. cake rec... Apr 23 2004, 04:22 AM
lorea Alright, I'm back to share some more experienc... Apr 23 2004, 03:39 PM
Tepee I'd like to participate in this too. I've ... Apr 23 2004, 07:50 PM
Wendy DeBord So Lorea, whats your final number 1-5 and do you h... Apr 24 2004, 05:25 AM
Wendy DeBord Did anyone get a chance to bake this recipe over t... Apr 26 2004, 05:52 AM
Ladybug I baked it but I haven't eaten it yet. It... Apr 26 2004, 07:00 AM
kthull I have the test cake, plus my standard cake both t... Apr 26 2004, 08:38 AM
celenes I would like to participate as well. Just let me ... Apr 26 2004, 11:12 AM
Wendy DeBord Celenes please particapate. To do so, you need to ... Apr 26 2004, 01:39 PM
lorea
I would still say it's a 4.5 (can I do that??... Apr 26 2004, 01:43 PM
Ladybug Slight change of plan - my 6 year old son snuck in... Apr 26 2004, 02:24 PM
nightscotsman My weekend starts tomorrow, so I'll give it a ... Apr 26 2004, 04:02 PM
Tepee Eek! Help! I was preparing the dry ingredi... Apr 26 2004, 07:31 PM
kthull Wendy, I was so happy with my current chocolate ca... Apr 26 2004, 08:03 PM
Tepee OK, I went ahead and made the cake after adding 1 ... Apr 27 2004, 12:25 AM
KarenS Wendy, I never spray the sides of a cake pan- I al... Apr 27 2004, 01:23 AM
Wendy DeBord Karen, any chance you could find a moment to bake ... Apr 27 2004, 06:13 AM
mkfradin I haven't had a chance to try the Wooley cake ... Apr 27 2004, 01:26 PM
kthull I don't know if any cakes made it to day two o... Apr 27 2004, 05:59 PM
kthull Ok, so my daughter just sprung this on me: she wan... Apr 27 2004, 08:44 PM
KarenS Wendy, Sure, I'll try baking your recipe! ... Apr 27 2004, 08:58 PM
KarenS I have a few comments. Technique is very important... Apr 27 2004, 09:24 PM
kthull As far as times went, cupcakes were done at 24 min... Apr 27 2004, 10:38 PM
Wendy DeBord Karen, I was planning on tackling white/vanila cak... Apr 28 2004, 05:51 AM
nightscotsman OK, I baked up Wendy's recipe yesterday mornin... Apr 28 2004, 08:45 AM
lorea Hey Wendy....can you try out the cake I posted fro... Apr 28 2004, 01:56 PM
Wendy DeBord The next several days will be pretty intense for m... Apr 28 2004, 09:14 PM
Tepee
DITTO on the RLB comment.
And, about the second,... Apr 29 2004, 12:13 AM
Wendy DeBord Oh my gosh..............if theres anyone else lirk... Apr 29 2004, 08:38 AM
Samaki Hi Wendy, I'm hoping to make the cake tonight ... Apr 29 2004, 11:00 AM
kthull Incidendtally, this cake makes THE BEST cupcakes. ... Apr 29 2004, 12:23 PM
nightscotsman IMBC? :huh:
OK, in a side by side tasting with R... Apr 29 2004, 01:48 PM
kthull Sorry, IMBC = Italian Meringue Buttercream :smile... Apr 29 2004, 02:41 PM
Tepee
For the flour, would that be AP Flour or Cake Fl... Apr 29 2004, 07:14 PM
Wendy DeBord I just want to say something quickly. It's not... Apr 29 2004, 07:14 PM
JanKK Damn. No I suppose I have to admit I'm lurkin... Apr 29 2004, 08:24 PM
Samaki OK, here's my report. This is a fabulous cake.... Apr 30 2004, 09:46 AM
RMR Wendy, I made this delicious cake last night. It ... May 1 2004, 07:21 AM
Wendy DeBord Samaki, at one time used to make that chiffon cake... May 1 2004, 07:39 AM
RMR
AP flour with cornstarch would be a substitution... May 1 2004, 09:35 AM
Samaki
AP flour with cornstarch would be a substitution... May 1 2004, 12:05 PM
JanKK Ok ..had the taste testing of the Fudge Brownie Ca... May 1 2004, 08:37 PM
Wendy DeBord Great JanKK! That's the whole point, findi... May 2 2004, 01:40 PM
RMR Part II – Wendy, I thawed the second layer to comp... May 3 2004, 05:57 AM
kthull I look forward to testing Jan's recipe, hopefu... May 3 2004, 06:39 AM
Wendy DeBord I went though the previous posts and sor far this ... May 3 2004, 09:41 AM
Samaki Give it a 4 overall. May 3 2004, 09:55 AM
lorea I made JanKK's cake last night. I was going t... May 4 2004, 12:38 PM
mkfradin Sorry about not giving the number--I think I'd... May 5 2004, 06:05 PM
JanKK Well, since I only have a small freezer ...and it ... May 5 2004, 06:21 PM
Tepee Made the Woolley cake again. I'd give it a 4.5... May 5 2004, 07:43 PM
JanKK Your cake is gorgeous, TP!! Thanks for th... May 5 2004, 07:58 PM
Wendy DeBord Absolutely lovely ladies! Thanks for including... May 5 2004, 08:06 PM
Steve Klc One thing I'm curious about--how many of you h... May 6 2004, 05:44 AM
Wendy DeBord Well I agree with that point Steve, except I sort ... May 6 2004, 06:01 AM
Samaki The brand of cocoa powder absolutely makes a diffe... May 6 2004, 09:19 AM
nightscotsman For these tests I've just been using Hershey... May 6 2004, 02:37 PM
Wendy DeBord Ah, I see I was wrong. So yes, can we all make a n... May 7 2004, 06:30 AM
kthull The cocoa I used in my tests was Droste Dutch-proc... May 7 2004, 09:34 AM
Samaki Wendy, I didn't see your reply before I typed ... May 7 2004, 09:40 AM
lorea I think the brand of cocoa makes a big difference ... May 7 2004, 02:52 PM
KarenS I am still with the cake that we make (I did post ... May 8 2004, 12:49 AM
tejon I made the Woolley cake last night. Having read th... May 8 2004, 08:57 AM
FWED Sound the trumpets. Lets have a fan fare (maybe t... May 8 2004, 06:44 PM
nightscotsman Wow, thanks for the formal tasting results, FWED. ... May 9 2004, 03:09 AM
gibfalc I just wanted to chime in on the cocoa powder disc... May 9 2004, 08:04 AM
FWED Wendy, thanks so much for starting this thread. A... May 9 2004, 10:10 AM
mpav I just caught up with this thread but was happy to... May 9 2004, 10:54 AM
Wendy DeBord Way cool, and that's really a great idea for a... May 9 2004, 10:18 PM![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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